Do anda think Courtney deserved this?

Otaku_Girl4890 *Sigh* So basically the Courtney fans think she doesn't deserve it because we love her so we'll defend her to the end, and the Courtney haters think she deserves it because they think she's some wicked wich that deserves every little nasty thing she gets and refuse to listen to reason that she isn't as bad as they think and can't seem to understand why she doesn't deserve some of the horrible things that happen to her -_- Well, fuck. Can't someone here at least not be biased about this?

Otaku_Girl4890 @joyfullness10 I believe I agree with you the most. It sucks even more that this situation was MEANT to be compared to Gwen's situation. It isn't like her situation at all.

joyfullness101 Oh, I meant to say *not slightly voluntary.* I don't think I'm being biased, though. The situations aren't alike at all. I didn't know this was the way the writers were going with this. Courtney doesn't need to know "how Gwen felt." Unless of course she was in the EXACT same situation Gwen was in which I doubt what would happen. Gwen did something wrong, she knew it, and which is why Gwen begged for forgiveness.

spockgirl666 Hey I'm a Courtney fan too, she is one of my favourites but, I think she has to learn, well, Gwen was hated by everyone, and she worked hard to make things better with Courtney, just it is not fair, courtney has scott and gwen when she didn't do anything, gwen had to break up with duncan to prove that she wanted to make things well with courtney, and if she has ever kissed duncan, it was only because she really liked him, but she broke up with him, also, what is the problem at all? we know the truth is going to go out, and everyone will know that courtney didn't kiss cameron, I think it is more like Gwen deserves one person be in her place than if courtney deserves it or not , because it isn't a problem to Court, it isn't because she deserves it, it is because gwen has passed a lot of bad thing that really, she didn't deserve, just think about it, but things would be better if scott and courtney stayed together and gwen and duncan too, but it doesn't matter now, no one is taking revenge of Court, it is just to prove than gwen and courtney should be friends (well, they should be friends for the writers..)

sarafina123321 Yes i think she does

bakes2389 Agreed with spockgirl! It's not that both girls deserve something bad to happen to them, but it is right that they are trying to show Courtney how Gwen felt. Although Courtney didn't like or want to kiss Cam, she still did. And the writers are proving a good point here. Everyone judged Gwen for her actions, without even asking her side of the story. Remember when Tyler revealed the DxG kiss to Courtney? Courtney turned on Gwen (NOT Duncan), assumed Gwen did it on purpose, and then slapped Gwen..... did Courtney let either one of them explain themselves? Nope. And now, Gwen is doing the same thing to Courtney. Courtney wants to explain herself, but no one is listening, and Gwen has immediately chosen to dismiss Courtney for her actions. They may be different situations, but they are being handled the same way...... this is a breakthrough for their friendship for sure. If they keep judging each other, they can't be friends....unless it is this past friendliness we're having where they talk about hair, squeal, and talk in sync. If they learn to overcome their issues with each other, then they can be friends and have a real bond.....and that's good. xD

joyfullness101 Ehh, I still don't believe she deserves this at all. I don't see the point of the writers going this way with the whole situation. I only think Courtney would "deserve it" Unless she was put in the exact same situation Gwen was put in. :P

xXcentalifeXx The message that this person sent on the Facebook page of Total Drama on Cartoon Network are just completely wrong and uncalled for. And I know that I’m not being [i]biased[/i] about this situation because I would be stating an unfair prejudiced against [b]Gwen[/b] or the [b]DxG relationship[/b] or [b]for Courtney[/b]. I strongly feel that this is wrong. I’m going to try my very best to make this comment not so long, but I might fail to do that… First of all, the kiss between Courtney and Cameron is a [b]COMPLETELY[/b] different situation than the kiss shared between Duncan and Gwen. The kiss between Courtney and Cameron happened because it was a devious plan of Mal’s to break-up Scottney’s relationship and Cameron went along with it. Mal pushed Cameron to kiss Courtney and made it seem like she initiated the kiss from Cameron saying [b]“Why’d you kiss me?!”[/b] And it was obvious that what Scott saw was something else—a kiss that wasn’t intentional—and in Scott’s defense, I completely would understand that he would feel that way and not let Courtney get a word in since he didn’t know that it was 1) Mal’s plan all along and 2) that it [i]wasn’t cheating[/i]. Courtney defiantly had the right to feel the same way when DxG kissed because Gwen actually was [i]kissing her boyfriend[/i]! There is no other explanation around it. [i]Courtney and Duncan were in a relationship when Duncan and Gwen kissed.[/i] [b]Period.[/b] I am sick and tired of people trying to find another way around this just to protect this relationship. There’s nothing wrong with liking them, but you can’t excuse what they did. I would like say that I’m very proud of what a handful of fans who still supports DxG saying in return that this situation is completely different and that Courtney didn’t deserve to be in this situation. Yes, I can understand about what this person is saying about how Gwen felt like when Courtney was spewing accusations at her in TDA, but that only happened since Trent and Geoff started to really insist on the DxG relationship. Wouldn’t you feel some type of way if there’s a lot people around you suggesting that your boyfriend is involved with someone else? But, I’m not completely defending Courtney because Gwen told her that nothing intimate happened after they wrestled, but instead, took part in a prank. And throughout the rest of the season, Courtney started to spew those same accusations at Duncan. This kiss between Cameron and Courtney is just like what Gwen had to go through when Heather kissed Trent since Trent didn’t initiate that kiss, but got most of the blame since everyone else (expect Heather and Lindsay) who were still in the competition thought he was stepping out on Gwen. Also, Leshawna made it worse when she told a completely different story from her point-of-view about what went on when she saw that kiss. So, this is just some attempt make Courtney realize that all of those accusations she made about Gwen and Duncan were wrong in TDA and made both of them feel horrible. She might even realize that in the next episode because it seem like Gwen is planning on having a serious conversation with her. BUT. I hope that Gwen intends on asking Courtney if she likes Cameron and/or intended to kiss him while she was in a relationship with Scott because THAT would be logical from where I stand. Second, the kiss between Duncan and Gwen [b]WAS[/b] intentional since the both of them not only [u]kissed each other[/u], but [u]did that behind closed doors, [b]hiding it[/b][/u]. Gwen had an interest in Duncan during the time he was in a relationship with Courtney. She was [u]complicit[/u] in cheating since she completely went along with it. She may have felt guilty right afterwards, but she didn’t do anything about it! No, she couldn’t help the fact that they were in closed doors, but she didn’t even question him after the kiss. She kept saying that she feels guilty, but liked the kiss and hide it from Courtney. If she didn’t have an interest in Duncan and/or was ambushed in kissing him, then not only would everyone agree with this statement shown at the top, but Gwen would not feel any type of guilt about the kiss. In instead, she would feel wronged since she didn’t initiate the kiss. But in reality, she DID kiss him back and it lasted a lot longer since they wanted to kiss each other. Courtney did not. So do I think that Courtney got what she deserved after not believing Gwen? Yes and No. Yes because now she got to step in Gwen’s shoes when she realizes how Gwen felt like when she too had somebody (i.e. Courtney) spewing those same kind of accusations at her in TDA. No, because no one deserves to be toyed with. No one deserves to be used to get what they want (i.e. Mal’s plan in TDAS and Heather’s plan in TDI) And when I mean no one, I MEANT NO ONE. So just like how Gwen didn’t deserve to feel like that in the past, so does Courtney. So to whoever who wrote that were just completely out of line and also the next day they updated their status stating: [i]Yesterday we gave you a challenge of your own, asking you to fill in the blank with whether you think Courtney deserved what she got when Scott didn't believe she didn't kiss Cameron. Thanks to everyone who participated! Our favorite came from Cynthia, who said:[/i] [i]I think Courtney did deserve it because karma decided it was her turn for being so hateful towards Gwuncan![/i] Wow.

xXcentalifeXx Yeah.... it's long... sorry...

bakes2389 ^^ Okay....I'm not trying to start a debate here, nor am I going to argue against what you've said. You've made some really good points! :D But since I like to play devil's advocate, how did Gwen intentionally plan to kiss Duncan? The DxG kiss was intentionally planned by Duncan. He knew going into that confessional that he was going to kiss Gwen, and cheat on Courtney. Duncan wanted his cake, and wanted to eat it too. Gwen never intended to kiss Duncan. She didn't plan on it. Gwen was sitting in the confessional, making comments about her stomach feeling fuzzy and worrying that Duncan was back. And BAM...in comes Duncan ready to f shit up. Intent means to "resolve or determine (to do something)." Gwen never was determined to kiss Duncan.... that just happened. Yes, Gwen gave in and kissed him back, but her kiss was no more intentional as Courtney and Cam's kiss. It wasn't planned by Gwen. Just like Courtney never planned to kiss Cam. Cam and Mal devised that one. Duncan and Gwen may have kissed, but it was only intentional on Duncan's part, and hiding it doesn't make it intentional either. Hiding it is just to cover it up.....because it was cheating....and they both knew they screwed up. I feel like the writers are doing this for a reason.....and the situations are actually similar because they weren't intentional. Just, shit happens....and these girls always get thrown into it, and it only becomes their burden....not the man's. -__- I'm so amazed though that the facebook page chose that comment....lmfao. That comment just got me. Karma for being hateful towards Gwuncan.... lmfao.... More like hypocrisy all around.....Gwen was accused and chastised by Courtney for her kiss.....and then tormented by other characters. Now Courtney is accused, and will most likely be chastised by Gwen.....and now Scott will torment Courtney (even though they're together....because he'll never forget it). Both of them dropped their friendships for the men in their lives. Both of them never listened to the other, or tried to understand their side of the story. The hypocrisy is too much. Gwen and Courtney are such parallels....it's frightening.

TeamWildFire Otaku The situation is actually more similar to how Heather kissed Trent, The fiasco does not look remotely similar to TDA or TDWT. accident and intentional are two different things. in this situation we have: Goat: Lindsay/Cameron Perpetrator: Heather/Mike Victim 1:Trent/Courtney Victim 2:Gwen/Scott

duncney16 No no no no. Gwen willingly kissed duncan. They both wanted it. Courtney and Cameron didn't want it at all, mike pushed cam into Courtney. Please do you honestly think Courtney would want Cameron over Scott? Plain and simple. It's different.

TeamWildFire I agree

Otaku_Girl4890 I'm so fucking pissed that they would post something like this. Courtney has done a lot of awful things, but she did NOTHING to deserve this. NOTHING. I don't give 2 fucks if you like her or don't like her. Courtney's feelings when her best friend kissed her boyfriend were rightfully so. She doesn't have to fucking feel what Gwen felt. Her situation is not anywhere near similar to Gwen and Duncan's situation. Not at all. It pisses me off how some people are trying to play Courtney off as the bad guy. Gwen and Duncan's situation isn't justified nor will it ever be. Gwen was crazy about Duncan and wanted to kiss him and be his girlfriend, just because she wasn't planning on kissing him doesn't mean she didn't mean to kiss him or pulled away from him. She wanted to kiss him just as much as Duncan wanted to kiss her. Yes, she felt awful after the kiss, but she still continued to hide it from Courtney. I love Gwuncan but it just isn't right for them to make Courtney look like the villian to justify Gwen and Duncan's actions. You can yell at me for this but I don't care, Courtney's feelings were what anyone would feel after there best friend kissed their boyfriend. It does NOT make her the villian for feeling that way. I never heard an I'm sorry for Gwen nor Duncan during World Tour. And they continued to date. I'd still be holding a grudge to if I was Courtney! Watch, now the writers will ruin Gwentney just because they think Courtney should learn a lesson that doesn't even need to be learned. Fuck! They could ruin Gwentney Idgaf but when they do it like this really pisses me off! Everything was fine, Courtney forgave Gwen and they were fucking fine. These writers omfg -_- Smfh.

duncney16 Thank you !!! Agreeed^

joyfullness101 @otaku: This show really bugs me sometimes. I honestly had no idea the writers were going this direction.

TeamWildFire All we can do is prepare for the worst, and hope for the best.

little_dollgirl Ok, id just like to say that Gwen didn't have to give up Duncan for Courtney. If that was her intention, she would have done it in the first episode. Gwen dumped Duncan, because he was obsessing over Courtney. If he hadn't, Gwen would still want to be with him. Courtney would have been fine after her and Gwen made up, and she was with Scott. Gwen even admitted her jealously wasbthe cause of her breakup saying, "all he did was talk about Courtney, it burns so bad".

xXcentalifeXx @Bakes: Oh, no problem at all! I’m glad you think I’ve made some really good points and it would most likely become a debate anyways since we’re both intelligent/mature enough to have a debate instead of an argument, but it happens sometimes. Now to answer your question: [i]How did Gwen intentionally plan to kiss Duncan?[/i] Well first off, I never said that she planned on kissing Duncan. She may have wanted to kiss him before since she had a crush on him, but I don’t think she tried to intentionally plan on kissing Duncan. Nahh, that plot was all from Duncan, my friend. He didn’t start to kiss her first though nor did Gwen lean in first since the both of them obviously wanted to kiss each other at that moment and didn’t stop it. Lol yes, he went in there and planned/was ready to fuck shit up!!! You should reread my comment again because I never said she planned on kissing him. Ugh, that would be [b]even worse[/b] though by the way…. BUT. No one can excuse the fact that Gwen was [b]complicit[/b] in the whole cheating scandal. She completely went along with it and her feeling guilty about it obviously wasn’t good enough. Remember, [b]complicit[/b] means: “[u]involved with other(s) in wrongdoing[/u]”. So, Gwen didn’t plan on intentionally kissing Duncan, but continued to be involved with Duncan by not stopping that kiss and continued to show interest in him right in front of Courtney. Also, I said “Second, [u]the kiss[/u] between Duncan and Gwen WAS intentional since the both of them not only kissed each other, but did that behind closed doors, hiding it.” So, what I meant was: Gwen and Duncan continued to kiss each other because they both wanted to at the moment it started. I’m not sure way a lot of people are even saying that Gwen kiss him first, but yeah… I don’t know…. But anyways, they knew they screwed up, but continued on anyways and that just set them up for failure at the start. Now, I agree (even though comparing which kiss was more intentional is useless, to me) the kiss between Court and Cam was more intentional. One mastermind behind it all: Mal. One contributor: Cam. One “person who wasn’t in on this at all, but this situation was luckily used to teach her a lesson about spewing accusations at people”: Court. LOL My prediction for the next episode consist of Courtney having that conversation with Gwen and telling her the truth of what happened and Gwen understand, but also gloating in way (because I completely wouldn’t mind it at all). As for Scott? I sure hope he doesn’t torment her, but if it happens… then, it happens… BUT. And I’m being dead serious about this. If Gwen says one more time that consist of “He wasn’t her boyfriend at the time.”/”That’s for him not being your boyfriend when he kissed me!” I will lose even more respect for because it seemed like she was secretly trying to deny any wrongdoing on her part which STILL to this day upsets me. (Don’t be afraid to quote me if I’m wrong though, hun. I’m still trying to learn from this experience [i](the show/interactions with fans)[/i]) Now as for the writer of Total Drama?? Girl, don’t get me started on that. There are so many deep rooted things I would write about them for the whole storyline about not only Courtney and Gwen, but other innocent characters that for some reason are going through the same kind of drama. (But I’ll keep it to myself…) They need more material. I know that these types of situation happen to teens every day, but they could’ve made this show more about these teens going through the drama and letting/showing them learn(ing) from it. You catch my drift? But, one of those producers told us from YouTube that they felt bad about it so, it is what it is… Can’t go back and change it. I’m just glad that for the major situation shown between Duncan/Courtney/Gwen was put to rest now by ending both. (Hopefully) For the person start this shit on Facebook though needs to sit down and be banned from ever writing comments again, in my opinion. Also, to the person who won that “said contest”. But, I digress…. Can we also have a conversation about the hypocrisy that’s been going around here? Maybe it’s mostly because no one can’t help, but be biased about who they like/dislike… Also, were you surprised that said “Yes & No” that facebook guy’s answer?! LOL

bakes2389 @Centa: Oh no, I totally got what you meant in your comment lol I was just pointing out that I don't personally feel like either kiss was intentional, unless we're talking about all of these idiot boys "planning" their kisses. Sometimes I.....strike that, always......want to smack these characters repeatedly. I'm not denying that Gwen took part in the kiss and went along with it; she did....and it was wrong. However, (I know I'm going to get flak for this) Courtney went along with a kiss being planted on her. Court was shocked, so she didn't react. But I was totally expecting her to push Cam back and destroy him. And that didn't happen -___- so I feel like she went along with it.... The whole scenario.........with everything....and every character....is just ridiculous. I'm so done with it. I feel like in the next episode, Gwen is going to act haughty and lecture Courtney, and then Courtney is going to explain the scenario, and Gwen will say something along the lines of her in the same position, and then they'll be bffl......and the writing is going to be horrid. They've already screwed up the whole triangle thing by introducing that "Gwen didn't cheat....because DxC was broken up" plot. I haven't lost respect for Gwen because I'm blaming the writers and I've lost respect for them. Hell, I don't even hate Courtney anymore.....and that's a serious problem for me. lol The writing is just so awful this season, and I feel like all of the characters are being butchered, the longer they stay. Oh....don't even get me started on the hypocrisy going on up in the show and up on this fansite. BOTH Courtney and Gwen are acting like the biggest asshats.......but naturally, every Courtney-stan and Gwen-stan is going to come out and glorify their character and their character's actions. It's typical. I just really can't take much more of the hypocrisy between Gwen and Courtney.......they talk a big game, but their ridiculous actions speak volumes for them. That fb thing was just so damn funny. I mean, everyone has the right to post what they want, compare and contrast what they feel, and share opinions. I just couldn't believe they chose that answer. lol "Karma's on Courtney for hating on Gwuncan." lmao I may not be a huge fan of Courtney, but Courtney has every right to be pissed at a couple that stemmed from her scorned heart. I might have agreed with the comment if it had said that Courtney didn't hear out Gwuncan....or something along those lines. I might have been inclined to agree or at least try to understand that; that would make more sense. I just read that and laughed so hard....

raquellefffs2 everyone is talking bad about courtney and writers. more so they can teach good things. there are bad things. courtney and gwen are good people, more who have made mistakes, gwen already paid for his mistake. Now is the time for courtney.

Viivid Oh courtney deserved it. That bish deserved it

sturmelle15 No. Mal constantly did stuff to cause trouble to get her eliminated like tossing a rock into the fire breathing flower to burn the chocolate sauce. That and he also told everyone to vote for Alejandro, easily beat Izzy in a boxing match, almost threw Heather into a pool of acid, buried Gwen under a ton of wood, after which he refused to give her a hand, and knocked Scott unconscious.

DandC4evacute Besides, there's also the fact that Scott was THERE and SAW it, while Courtney had no idea until Tyler TOLD her.

CourtneyHater12 Courtney did Deserve it because she kept thinking Gwen Kissed Duncan And Now Look What Happened Scott Thinks She Kissed Him Thats Karma For You