Then we would see more of the hot prince-LOL.

That's what I've always wanted! In fact, I wrote a story for a stuck up princess based off the Princess and the Pea, just because I knew Disney would never do it.

Yes!
Why is it always the guy that is allowed to be a bum or an asshole and then the beautiful girl who is pretty much perfect must show him the error in his ways?
Pocahontas teaches John to love nature.
Belle teaches Beast to be a better person.
Tiana teaches Naveen to stop being a lazy bum.
Aladdin learns nothing from Jasmine other than the fact that you can lie to a girl to seduce her and when she finds out the truth, she'll forgive you instantly.

firegirl1515, I did the same thing...My first fanfic Princess Pea was about a stuck up princess who learns to be a good person.

I'm sick of the fact that in every disney princess movie, it's the prince who learns a lesson from the princess.

Snow White & The Prince- no lesson was learned by either from each other.
Cinderella & Charming- no lesson was learned by either from each other.
Aurora & Phillip- no lesson was learned by either from each other.
Ariel & Eric- no lesson was learned by either from each other....well, Eric was sort of taught by Ariel to marry what was right in front of him instead of searching for the voice.
Belle & Beast- Belle teaches Beast to love & be kind.
Aladdin & Jasmine- Jasmine teaches Aladdin to be himself.
Pocahontas & John- Pocahontas teaches John to understand other cultures and respect the earth.
Mulan & Shang- Mulan teaches Shang that women can do anything.
Tiana & Naveen- Tiana teaches Naveen to be responsible. Tiana learns that love is important, but this is not taught to her directly by Naveen.

It's basically portraying all the girls as having perfect moral standards and knowing exactly what's right, and the men being incompetent in that area. It'd be nice for once if the MEN knew what was right and had to teach the princess. I'd bet you any amount of money though that if they made such a movie the princess wouldn't be the main character, the prince would...bleh..


The only thing I could think of, actually, is Megara learns a lesson from Hercules. She learns to love again and not have her guard up...on the other hand, I don't like Megara. She's my least favorite beCAUSE she's a "bad person" for the first part of the film.

But a girl doesn't have to start out as bitchy or mean to learn a lesson. Case in point, Aladdin, John Smith, and Naveen weren't mean and they learned a lesson. You could have a girl learn to be herself, learn about other cultures, or be responsible without being a bitch. But that's the easiest route so if Disney ever does it she'll probably end up being mean.

It'd be a nice change. Maybe then a Disney Princess movie would be relatable to guys as well. Disney has been looking for a way to get boy's back interested instead of making Disney seem like an all girls thing. From what i've read, they're emphasizing Flynn's part in Tangled and changed the title from Rapunzel to Tangled to try to make it appeal more to guys than just girls (correct me if I'm wrong). If a prince were to help change the ways of a princess then perhaps the movie could center around the prince more than the princess, like Aladdin, and make it appeal more to guys as well.
We've seen tons of guys in the Disney movies go through these huge changes, so yes why not switch it up and have the princess learn something from him? Even though it wasn't learned from Naveen, Tiana still changed a little and realized not to lose sigh fo what's most important.Did any other princess go through some change like that or anything? Off the top of my head, can't think of one. So why not take it to the next level? That's probably what would happen if a princess learned from a prince.

^^ but I'd like to see a Disney Princess movie that focuses on the princess, i.e. the princess is the main character, but the prince still teaches her a lesson. If it focused more on the prince, then it wouldn't be a princess movie to me. Aladdin still really isn't a disney princess movie, since it focuses on Aladdin.

I think Naveen gets some credit for what Tiana learns, it's partly his love and attitude that helps her reasses her priorities. And I think Mulan and Pocahontas learn lessons in their movies too, just not through their partners. Mulan learns who she wants to be and what she's capable of, Pocahontas learns more responsibility (at the start of her movie she often seems to be running off to do her own thing while others are working, but by the end she chooses responsibility over the adventure of seeing a new land).

I think it would be interesting to see a female character start in a more Beast/John Smith place though. I mean, having a clear personality fault that is focused on and learned from, because since they've never really done that (I'd say the most focused on fault was Tiana's workaholic nature, but hers can still be seen as a positive so to me it's not the same as someone like Beast) it has a sort of implied message that perfection is more expected from women than men. Disney's view can a little too often lean towards the idea that a good man can become one, but a good woman starts out perfect. A character doesn't have to be a bitch if they don't want to make a princess like that, just having a fault that's more of a true fault than 'doesn't believe in herself'. Like John Smith starts with a clear fault, but a lot of people still liked him from the start.

^^ it's not the fact that the princesses dont learn lessons, because they do. It's that they don't learn lessons from their prince.

That's what I was meaning in the second part of my comment, by saying I'd like to see a female character in a Beast or John Smith position, or going further with what they touch on with Tiana, and saying it shouldn't always be the woman who's good from the start. A female character in a similar position to Beast or John Smith would learn from their partner. I shouldn't have just left that implied without specifically stating I meant that.

^^ right. Okay, glad you clarified babe. :D
yea, really, sincerely, the only character I can think of is Megara, who learned anything from her prince.

Nope!

I think that could be a good idea.

Definitely

Yes!!

But I wouldn't want to be the sort of thing where she's a kickass bitch and then she becomes this sweet and blegh little animal-loving damsel. We have enough of those. FIESTY, DISNEY. FIESTY = EPIC WIN IN A TIN. I've had enough of kind and sweet to last me a lifetime. Can we have some good old groin-kicking bitches of princesses, now?

it would be nice, but as long as someone learns a lesson, i really don't care who.

If princesses are the role models for little kids, then why is the princess always perfect? The one that's never wrong or never does anything bad. That's not the way the world works! People are not always pretty and charming and ladylike. What about all those other girls who don't like pink or tea parties? Or the ones that some times make bad choices? How is a girl like that supposed to be identified with a perfect-doing princess? And now, I am in pro with the girl power and everything, but why are men always like, not there, they usually don't have a lot of dialogues or activity other than just fighting to save the ever perfect princess. There should definitely be a movie in wich the princess has the right to be wrong and learn from her mitakes. Girls in real life need to learn that to.

^ Yeah