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Now that Season 1 is coming to an end, here\'s how Legends of Tomorrow is setting up Season 2.

DC\'s Legends of Tomorrow is getting close to the end of its Vandal Savage arc, and the team behind the show is already busy conceiving what Season 2 is going to look like.

To preview the end of Season 1 and tease what\'s ahead for Legends\' second season, showrunner Phil Klemmer got on the phone to talk about the return of Carter Hall, the ripple effects of Arrow\'s big death and what comes next after Vandal Savage. He also discussed whether big DC names like Jonah Hex and Constantine will return in Season 2, the plan for crossovers between Legends, The Flash and Arrow and whether the Waverider could ever jump dimensions.

Spoilers for Arrow\'s recent death contained below.

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IGN: In light of Detective Lance letting Sara know that Laurel died on Arrow, how much are you and the other producers of the other CW DC shows going to try to have big events within your TV universe impact Legends of Tomorrow, and vice versa?

Phil Klemmer: It helps to have Marc [Guggenheim] working on both shows. In Season 2, we are bringing a writer from Arrow [Keto Shimizu] and a writer from Flash [Grainne Godfree] onto our series, just so that we can make our stories work in concert. The only challenge is the logistics of a crossover. If it weren\'t for the fact that Grant Gustin and Stephen Amell were busy working 16 hours a day, five days a week on their own series, we would certainly find more time for the crossovers. It\'s definitely something that we\'re planning on doing next season for our show.

Bringing up Laurel\'s death is interesting because it doesn\'t require an appearance of an actor from another show. It\'s just a thing that happens on the other show that sort of changes the plot of one of the sister shows. Laurel\'s death will resonate into Season 2. It\'s so cool how that just enriches the world, the universe. It just makes it seem so much larger and so much more real when something that happens on Arrow can create ripples that appear on our show in a huge way. It fundamentally alters the DNA of our series. When something momentous happens in one, I think feeling the reverberations makes the universe feel coherent. It makes the universe feel big.

IGN: When you look back at Season 1 and you look at how the audience has responded to some of the new DC characters you\'ve introduced, is there a chance of people like Constantine and Jonah Hex and other characters people have really liked coming into the show and being a part of the team, even if just for a short period of time?

Klemmer: There\'s a 100 percent probability, and I feel like in Season 2 we\'re determined to make it an even greater infusion of familiar faces and names from the DC Universe. We flirted with it and we had a version of guest stars, but as we move into Season 2, I think we\'re all determined to have people who are going to be integral to the season-long mythology.

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IGN: Do you have any specific plans for Constantine or Jonah Hex?

Klemmer: We don\'t have any specific plans, but I will say we have plans for people of that sort of magnitude. Certainly characters of that magnitude -- a handful, a 

of characters that big or bigger -- will make their appearance in Season 2.

IGN: We know that Carter is coming back later this season. What can you say about Hawkman\'s return? Do you have any bigger plans for him in Season 2?

Klemmer: I\'ll slightly dodge that question by saying that the version of Carter who we encounter at the end of this season isn\'t necessarily the one that we remember. Because we are a time travel show and because he is a man who has the habit of reincarnating, it\'s not going to be like he comes back into our world and is welcomed with open arms. This is a Carter Hall with an asterisks by his name. Expect surprises when we meet him, and expect complications.

In [Thursday\'s] episode ["Leviathan"], instead of helping us kill Savage as he originally set out to do in the first two hours of the series, he\'s going to be very much responsible for us not being able to kill Savage. The next episode ["River of Time"] is our bottle episode where having failed to kill Savage we now have him as our prisoner, and it\'s sort of our version of Midnight Run where we\'re trying to transport an insane person to the Vanishing Point to face justice.

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IGN: Vandal Savage\'s abilities make him uniquely suited to be a villain for a time travel show like Legends of Tomorrow. How do you follow up on that in Season 2? Do you try to find a new villain with similar powers, or do you come at it from a different angle when you\'re establishing the new threat?

Klemmer: We\'re coming at it from a completely different angle. We\'re determined to make every part of Season 2 feel like its own show. Episode 201 will very much be a new pilot with new good guys, new bad guys, new stakes, new dynamics, new goals. The team will basically have to find a new purpose. Once you save the world, what do you do then? It\'s sort of a question of after you\'ve won a Super Bowl, what do you do from there? The fact that the world was in peril sort of forced our team to fall into its own dysfunctional version of lockstep.

Season 2, they\'re no longer going to be hunted by Time Masters. They\'re no longer going to be burdened with having to save the world. It\'s no longer going to be about saving Miranda and Jonas. The interesting thing about Season 2 is I think it\'s going to have a much, much different tone because our Legends are going to have a totally different purpose. They\'re actually going to have a totally different constitution. There will be new faces and new everything.

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IGN: I\'m curious about you saying "there will be new faces," because we\'ve heard the lineup will mostly be the same. Are there going to be a good mix of new Legends brought into the show?

Klemmer: The joy of doing an ensemble show is you can change the dynamic. We never want our characters to be too comfortable or familiar with one another. I think what makes the show so fun is that they\'re not your usual square-jawed, straight-edge, grim and determined version of a superhero team. As we find them working very well at the end of Season 1, I think we\'re obliged as storytellers to come up with a reason they are not working well in Season 2. I kind of feel like that\'s when they\'re at their best.

They\'re the Bad News Bears. You don\'t want the Bad News Bears to win the championship; you want them to get runner up and tell the other team to shove the trophy where the sun don\'t shine. To me, why the Legends are so lovable is because they can\'t quite get it together. It makes them so human because they want to be heroes so badly, and yet they always fall short. That\'s why we\'re going to change up the dynamics of the team a little bit and change up the dynamics of our villains as well.

IGN: With the Multiverse becoming such a big part of the larger DC TV universe, is there a chance Legends could become a dimensions-jumping show in addition to a time travel show?

Klemmer: I think that would maybe make my head explode. I can barely deal with time travel in a single universe, so you might have to put a pin in that. [

DC\'s Legends of Tomorrow airs Thursdays at 8 p.m. ET/PT on The CW.

Terri Schwartz is Entertainment Editor at IGN. Talk to her on Twitter at @Terri_Schwartz.

DC\'s Legends of Tomorrow First Aired Jan. 2016