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Okay, so I made one of these artikel about Jason and some people requested that I do one for Piper, so I thought I would try. :) Also, I’m sorry if there are a billion other artikel about why someone likes/hates Piper, I didn’t really look to see. XD Hopefully this isn’t too redundant and boring for those of anda who have been on fanpop longer than I have…

Before I start I just want to say:

1) THIS CONTAINS SPOILERS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! JUST A WARNING!!!!

2) These are my opinions and I just want to share them. Feel free to share your own opinions in the comments! :)

I’m going to daftar the arguments I’ve seen people make against Piper and give reasons why I, personally, think they are wrong (this doesn’t mean that I’m right, it’s just my opinion and what I think, so please don’t get mad at me for it! Thanks!).


1) “Piper is a Mary-Sue”
So, I really didn’t want to start with this one, because I don’t know enough about Mary Sues to argue against this effectively. But since I see this as the #1 reason why some people hate Piper, I’ll try my best.
Here is why I DON’T think that Piper is a Mary Sue:
1)    Piper does, in fact, have flaws. She used to be a klepto, she felt (maybe still feels?) that her dad ignored her and has low self-esteem because of it, and she is a little bit of a hypocrite (because she does think about clothes and appearance, even though she wants so badly not to XD). Those sound like flaws to me!
2)    Some people say that a Mary Sue is measured oleh how the characters see them rather than the reader. Wouldn’t that have to mean that all the characters cinta Piper and think she is flawless? I don’t think this is true AT ALL. How many people DON’T like Piper? There’s Drew, those girls from the Wilderness School, Jane, Gaea, and probably Reyna and almost every Roman camper. So, Piper is definitely NOT loved oleh everyone. As for the other characters seeing her flaws, I think that they do. Here are some examples: 1) In The lost Hero, Leo gets annoyed that Piper wants to be with Jason so much (in Chapter 23)—though I suppose anda could say this is also directed at Jason and not JUST Piper. 2) Her dad thinks that she is immature with all her stealing and stuff and he is often disappointed in her. 3) Drew absolutely loathes Piper and thinks she is annoying. And there are probably more, but I only have the first book with me right now.
3)    I’ve seen some people say that Piper is a Mary Sue for these reasons: 1) She has a special weapon, 2) She has a good bernyanyi voice, and 3) She is a Daughter of Aphrodite, but can still fight. My arguments: 1) Yeah, Piper has Katoptris, but Percy has Riptide, Jason had his coin thing, and Leo has his tool-belt. So I don’t think this makes Piper a Mary Sue. 2) Some people are good singers, even without lots of lessons. This was only mentioned ONCE and only briefly (if I’m even thinking of the right part) and I don’t see how it really makes Piper a Mary Sue, even if lots of Mary Sues can sing… (And just a acak thought about that…do anda think her “powerful voice” atau whatever it berkata about her good bernyanyi voice has anything to do with her charmspeak? Probably not, but I just thought of it…) And 3) I’m pretty sure all the children of Aphrodite COULD fight if they wanted to, they just choose to spend lebih time on clothes and make-up like Drew. But the fact that Piper CHOOSES to fight and is good at it doesn’t make her a Mary Sue. If anda were a child of Aphrodite, would that automatically mean anda couldn’t be a good fighter? No, it’s a choice that Piper made. She wants to fight and she is good at it.
4)    Some people also say that Piper is a Mary Sue because she wants to be normal. If this is true, then Annabeth, Hazel, and probably every other female demigod in the world is a Mary Sue. They ALL want to be normal. Who wants to have monsters after anda all the time? Now as for Piper not wanting her dad to be a famous actor, then I’ll just say this: I don’t think she wishes THAT necessarily. I think she wants her dad to pay lebih attention to her rather than his job. Who wouldn’t? thalia didn’t like that her mom was an actress either, did she (I honestly don’t remember, so please correct me if this is wrong)?
Like I said, I don’t know enough about what makes a character a Mary Sue to really argue against this one, but from what I do know, Piper doesn’t really seem like one.


2) “Piper is weak”
I don’t see Piper as weak at all, really. For one thing, she had the guts to not betray her friends in The lost Hero, even though it meant she might lose her dad. Yes, she thought about betraying them, but in the end she managed to save BOTH of them. Also, in The lost Hero, Piper wanted so badly to be able to fight when they were in the cave and the manusia serigala were attacking. Just because she COULDN’T fight doesn’t mean she is weak. She still tried and wanted to, which in my opinion shows TRUE strength.
And, I will say that Piper is not nearly as kick-butt as Annabeth and even Hazel, but being able to FIGHT isn’t the only thing that makes someone strong. Love, loyalty, and determination also tampil strength. And Piper shows ALL of those qualities. Piper isn’t weak.


3) “Piper is useless”
Useless, anda say? Then I take it anda do not care at all about Percy atau Jason? Because she saved both of their lives MULTIPLE times in the Mark of Athena. First when they were possessed oleh eidolons and fighting each other and then again when they were drowning. And some people say that it was Piper’s fault that Percy and Jason were in these situations to begin with, but actually, people: no. She saw the gambar in Katoptris, but didn’t understand them. It wasn’t her fault.
Also, Piper helped save Hera in the lost Hero. If that’s not useful, then what is? If Hera hadn’t been saved, the world would have been doomed.


4) “Piper mencuri Jason from Reyna”
anda can’t steal what doesn’t belong to anyone. Reyna never HAD Jason, according to both Jason AND Reyna. So there is no way that Piper mencuri Jason. Jason chose her fair-and-square, because according to him, he never had feelings for Reyna to begin with. Sure, anda could argue that if Jason hadn’t been switched and had his memory wiped then “given time” he and Reyna may have dated. But that’s not fair to anyone. Jason didn’t ask to have his memory wiped and Piper didn’t ask to be diberikan fake memories of Jason. But it happened and if they are in cinta with each other, then good for them. They SHOULD be together then. Piper did not intentionally hurt Reyna. She was probably told oleh Jason, once he figured everything out, that he and Reyna were never dating (though we don’t know for sure, since we didn’t get to read about when they actually got together). So she probably assumed that Reyna either didn’t like Jason in that way atau that it didn’t matter because Jason didn’t want to be with her.
Also, some people say that Piper’s relationship with Jason is fake because her memories of him were fake and Reyna’s were real, so he should be with Reyna. But, remember, Piper and Jason have had 8 months to get to know each other oleh The Mark of Athena. That’s not as long as Jason and Reyna had, maybe, but it’s enough to make REAL memories. Also, near the end of The lost Hero it says this:

“She didn’t even worry that her knowledge of him was mostly based on three months of false
memories. anda can sense possibilities, her mother had said. And Piper was determined to make those possibilities a reality.” (The lost Hero, Chapter 52).

So Piper wanted to make real memories, and I think we can assume that she did, since she and Jason are now dating.
(And can I also just say that Reyna wasn’t exactly loyal to Jason while he was missing. She flirted with Percy. So, I don’t think it’s fair to say that Piper mencuri Jason from her when she obviously would have moved on pretty fast…)


5) “Piper is such a horrible jerk for saying that Percy is unimpressive compared to Jason! How dare she!”
Really?! Sure, maybe it was wrong for her to be comparing the two boys at all, but so what if SHE thinks that Jason is lebih impressive? She’s in cinta with him and NOT with Percy. Plus, she hasn't been with Percy very long at that point and she hasn't actually seen him do that much, whereas she has gone on a quest with Jason and seen him fight. If it were Annabeth, she would probably think that Percy was lebih impressive than Jason. It just makes sense. Piper isn’t saying that Percy is totally lame. She KNOWS that he’s epic (considering he was practically all anyone at Camp Half-Blood talked about in The lost Hero), she just prefers Jason. What’s wrong with a character having an opinion? Nothing. It’s totally fair of Piper to think what she did.


6) “Piper is a jerk to challenge Drew for leadership of kabin Ten!”
What about it makes her a jerk? Piper had every right to do so, as it is in the rules. Drew was not helpless, considering the duel would have taken place at a later time. Yes, Piper says something along the lines of “or we can do it now, if anda want”, but let’s not forget that she was technically giving Drew a choice. Sure, Piper had a dagger to Drew’s face, but do any of us REALLY think Piper would have stabbed Drew right then and there if she had refused? Doubtful. And also, Drew was just as much of a jerk to Piper and every other Aphrodite camper. Piper saved the Aphrodite campers from Drew’s horrible treatment and sort of put her in her place. So, no, Piper didn’t go about the situation the “right way” necessarily, but she isn’t a jerk for doing it.
Also, right after this confrontation Piper has with Drew it says:

“This was the part she was unsure of. She didn’t want to rule oleh fear. She wasn’t like Drew, but she didn’t know if they’d accept her. Then, spontaneously, the Aphrodite campers cheered so loudly, they must’ve been heard all across camp.” (The lost Hero, Chapter 52)

She DIDN’T WANT TO RULE oleh FEAR. Yes, she was trying to intimidate Drew, but in order for Drew to take her seriously, she had to. She didn’t want to intimidate the rest of the campers, and they were obviously happy that she did what she did, hence the cheering.


7) “Piper is too obsessed with Jason”
Yes, Piper is obsessed with Jason. TOO obsessed? Maybe a little. But I, personally, think that is what makes her character so interesting. Remember, she is a daughter of Aphrodite, the cinta goddess. Piper SHOULD be obsessed with the guy she is in cinta with. It fits with her character and seems right. Is it somewhat annoying to read about her obsessing over Jason in EVERY one of her chapters? Maybe to some people, but I find it kind of cute. XD


8) “Piper is a whiny brat!”
When does Piper EVER whine? Out loud, I mean. She definitely complains a lot in the first book about her dad not paying attention to her (but who wouldn’t if their parent was ignoring them?!), but she RARELY voices her complaints. And so I don’t think that she is a brat because it. If she constantly whined to Jason and Leo about her dad in The lost Hero, then YES she would be a brat. But she kept it to herself, which shows that she doesn’t want to burden other people with her problems. Someone please tell me how that is “bratty”.


9) “Piper is SO conceited!”
WHAT?!?! Is there ANY evidence of this in any of the books?! As far as I’m aware, Piper has extremely LOW self-esteem. She feels neglected oleh her dad and needs to do things like steal cars to get any attention from him. Throughout the entire first book, she feels that she is the weak link in the quest. And she constantly has worries about her relationship with Jason in the Mark of Athena. There is NO implication that Piper is the least bit conceited!


10) “Piper is a downgrade of Annabeth”
I don’t even know where to start with this one…
Hmm…let’s think about this…Piper and Annabeth are not similar enough for either one to be a “downgrade” of the other. Annabeth is strategic, athletic, and brave, while Piper is driven oleh her jantung rather than strategy, a little rebellious, and also brave. But all demigods should be brave. They sort of have to be…
Piper and Annabeth are totally different characters. Neither is a downgrade of the other.


11) “Piper is a manipulative jerk because of her charmspeak”
Piper isn’t really manipulative and her charmspeak doesn’t make her a jerk. She didn’t ask to be born with the ability to charmspeak. That’s not fair. That’s like saying that Jason is a horrible person because he can fly. atau that Percy is a jerk for being able to breathe underwater without drowning. Plus, her charmspeak could really come in handy in their battles against Gaea and the giants.


12) “Piper is really shallow and only thinks about her looks”
Piper definitely thinks about her looks a lot, but I fail to see how she is shallow in any way, shape, atau form. Like I berkata before, Piper keeps her problems to herself, rather than burdening other people with them. She cares deeply about Jason, who she is in cinta with. She also shows her cinta of Leo in the Mark of Athena when she leaps of the side of the freakin’ ship to hug him when she finds out he is alive. Piper knows the true meaning of being a daughter of Aphrodite, unlike Drew (who IS shallow, in my opinion):

“Aphrodite is about cinta and beauty. Being loving. Spreading beauty. Good friends. Good times. Good deeds. Not just looking good.” –Piper McLean, The lost Hero, Chapter 52

How is THAT shallow? No, Piper is NOT shallow.


13) “Piper is a jerk for considering betraying her friends to save her dad”
Seriously? Her dad CREATED her. He’s her only family that she knew before she met Aphrodite. And even though he ignored her sometimes, he still loves her and she loves him. How could anyone NOT consider saving their PARENT (unless it was some extreme circumstance where the parent is horrible to the kid atau hates the kid atau something, but that's not Piper's situation) even if it meant betraying their friends, especially if they had just found out that they didn’t really know their friends and all their memories of them were fake? Piper is NOT a jerk for wanting to save the man who created her, raised her, and loves her.


I hope that after all of this, I MAYBE JUST MAYBE convinced a few Piper-haters to give her a second-chance. She is a great character and she deserves to be loved as much as any other amazing character in The heroes of Olympus. :)
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Read this first: I haven't read the Mark of Athena in a while, so if I quote a fact and it's wrong, please go ahead and tell me. These are my theories, so go ahead and state your own. Don't be rude just because anda disagree with my theories, atau someone else's.

We have about 7 months until the House of Hades. If any of anda guys read Mark of Athena, then anda were probably screaming and bawling at the huge cliffhanger. (What? Only me? Okay.) What I'm wondering is, what happens selanjutnya in the series?

Obviously, Annabeth and Percy fell into Tartarus and are going to try and segel the Doors of Death...
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Okay, so before I even start this, I'm going to say 3 things:

1) THIS CONTAINS SPOILERS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Just a warning! :)

2) This is totally biased because Percy always annoyed me in the first series (I know, I'm a freak for saying that and I have no logical explanation for it...I always loved Annabeth and Grover lebih than him...it's weird but true).

2) These are just my opinions and please don't get mad at me for them! :) Thanks. But also, please share your opinions in the komentar (but please be nice).

Sooooo, here are my thoughts on why Jason is actually really awesome, even though so...
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Hello, people of the HoO fandom! I come in peace... anyways, I just finished membaca TLH and SoN, and am DYING for MoA! So to pass time, I have decided to pull up some predictions and try analyzing! :) So, today I'm going to do an in-depth look at the Prophecy of Seven, line-by-line. Feel free to contradict me, argue atau agree with me in the comments. I cinta a good debat :) Anyways, without further ado. Let's begin!

Seven half-bloods shall answer the call
To storm atau fire, the world must fall
An oath to keep with a final breath,
And foes beruang arms to the Doors of Death


Okay, let's start with...
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Hiya!
So a person added an answer to the pertanyaan about posting the Mark of Athena in written form and they even diposting a link to the transcript someone wrote down!! So I'm just transferring it here because it's pretty good so here ya go!
Disclaimer: Rick Riordan wrote this, NOT me :)
Last night while on tour for The Serpent's Shadow, Rick Riordan read the first chapter of Mark of Athena out loud to the audience.  The video can be found, but here's the transcript:

The Mark of Athena

Chapter 1:
Until she met the exploding statue, Annabeth thought she was prepared for anything.  She paced the deck...
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Ok, guys, I'm tired of the endless rants about Jason's immortal parent! No really, I'm sick of it, I just tossed my kue, cookie because of it...seriously! Ok, so I exxageratted, everybody does it, but back on topic. Jason's parents. I'm assuming, and it's just a hunch so don't shoot me, that his immortal parent is his dad. Don't ask me why, it's just the way I roll, I go with the messages I get subconciously. It seems that everyone has chosen sides, and they are dead set with their picks. Although there are others, three gods have been mentioned. Are anda ready to pick your side?

Pick number one:...
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 Piper, maybe.
Piper, maybe.
Since Rick Riordan gave us a glimpse of the new story, speculations and theories have been flying from all directions. I'm here to sort and sift through some good theories about Piper. In case, anda haven't read the sample chapterslink and enter "newhero" in the password field.
    Piper seems to be the lead female character, and an interesting one at that. She is half Native American (Cherokee) and half Olympian! She smells of cinnamon and according to the "popular clique" of The Wilderness School she's a Klepto. I know what you're thinking, daughter of Hermes, right? Not...
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Annabeth

"That's the lava wall." Annabeth berkata pointing to the huge dinding pouring lava. "What are those?" Caroline asked staring at the camp's cabins "Oh those are the cabins. Each one represents a God." Annabeth explained "Like my mom is Athena so my kabin is the one with the owl at the top." "Cool which one is my cabin?" Caroline asked "Well I don't know. First anda have to get claimed and then anda get a cabin." "Oh" she berkata looking confused. "Anyway it's almost time for anda to go meet Chiron" Annabeth said.

When they got to the Big House Percy was sitting on the leather dipan, sofa and Chiron was...
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kk so i know everybody wanted to die after finishing MOA, but then remembered that they couldnt read the selanjutnya one if they did. i know. me too. but if anda think about it, its pretty obvious what happens, atau at least easy to draw conclusions. percabeth cant die. nono. RR would die if he did that to us. but somebody has to, maybe nico? hedge? idk but someone important tho. somebody berkata that calypso was coming back and immediatly my "leoissingleandilovehim" lights started flashing. i mean, come on, hes the single, sexy beast, shes the single, depressed goddess. we all see it. but idk how she got freed? i mean, what is this magic? i think we may see some jeyna magic happening what with the percabeth mess and all that jazz, and octavion probably kicking her @$$ in some way, but again, idk. im kinda anti- piper cuz shes annoying, but she did save percy and jason so she earned some respect from me. but idk. post what anda think these are just ideas.
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Dear Readers, This is my fan Fic so please comment, and tell me what I can do to make this better.

Disclamer: I do not own these Characters, Rick Riordan does.
Percy-

Percy felt like a rock when he and Annabeth was tumbling towards tartarus. When they almost reached the ground, he turned so his body hit the ground and protected Annabeth. He heard Annabeth scream when he turned his body but he didn't care - all he wanted is for Annabeth to be safe. When he hit the ground he could hear his bones crunching, Annabeth calling his name but he was slowly losing consciousness.
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So this afternoon [note that this was writen a long time ago] I got lost on the Internet. But I made up for it oleh finding this map of Camp Jupiter that anda can see if anda click. (I apologise for the lack of link here, and in image sources; but I found out that my account was suspended because of a none-tolerable link here, so I just took them all out because I'm happy to be back).

It’s interactive too!

With little bubbles and boxes of information that appear through the magic of scrolling! So here are 7 fun facts and bits and bobs about New Rome, that anda didn’t know but probably will find...
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This artikel is about the wierdest couples ever... it need not be really a real couple.

I'm gonna talk about the puncak, atas 3 wierdest couple there has to be.

3 Nico and Juniper.

*Cough cough* i kinda hate that couple. I mean, Nico is this goth kid with a black leather jaket and a skull ring, he's kinda emo. And it'll be kinda funny to see Juniper, a cheerful, green nymph to be his girlfriend. It contradicts.


Nico can do much better than that.



2 Luke and Annabeth

Seriously? Luke and Annabeth? there's a 7 tahun gap between them so since Annabeth is now 17, Luke will be, what, 24?

And how can Annabeth even...
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So in the YouTube video where rick reads part of chapter 2, Reyna mentions that she is the praetor of legion 12. Now in TLH Jason mentions that he is the praetor of the first legion. I believe that the legions are the same as the seperate cabins at Greek camp, therefore meaning the legions are seperated oleh parent, and the praetors are like the counselors. As Zeus/Jupiter is kabin one at camp half blood, he might be legion 1 at camp Jupiter. Therefore as dionysus /Bacchus is the twelfth Olympian/cabin I am led to believe that her parent is Bacchus, therefore explaining the purple robe, and maybe her father even mentioned Percy to her and berkata he'd be on his way to camp which is how she knew his name. Thoughts?