star wars Best Sith Lord?

starwarskid posted on May 26, 2006 at 04:31PM
I will always be fond of Darth Maul. He pretty much took out Qui Gonn and Kenobi singlehandedly (except that he got cocky at the end and let Kenobi slice him up).

Who do you think rules as a Sith?

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lebih dari setahun yang lalu greedo said…
Darth Maul? He didn't make it past Episode I! I figure for longevity, Darth Sidious is the only one that made for (almost) 6 episodes. He gets my nod.
lebih dari setahun yang lalu mrk said…
I'd have to agree, Sidious is the best. He masterminded an overthrow of the clueless Jedi and started a galactic war. And he didn't even bust out the lightsaber until Episode III.
lebih dari setahun yang lalu dan said…
based on lightsaber skills alone...i would have to say darth maul. the link at the end of episode I is second to none. on screen, there hasn't been a sith that fought better than maul (dooku, sidious, even vader?).... come on, no way.

but based on storyline line and incorporating all 6 movies in the star wars saga...yeah, i would have to agree that the overall best sith lord would have to be sidious. good acting by the way as well in ep3.
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lebih dari setahun yang lalu harold said…
Vader, but specifically Vader in Episodes IV and V. Not only is he a potent force of evil, but he is isolated and anachronistic, an outsider that parallels both the outcasts OB1 and Yoda. There's something...elegant...in the menace of someone who is completely outdated but still evilly doughty.

Also, he has the best lines.
lebih dari setahun yang lalu greedo said…
Don't get me wrong Dan, I love Maul (he's probably the coolest looking and has the coolest saber) but getting punked by a padawan on Naboo? Not cool for your Sith cred dude!
lebih dari setahun yang lalu dan said…
good point greedo. x2 if you include the accounts of link. other than being killed off so early (and somewhat easily), maul in my book is still one of my favorite sith because of his impressive fighting skills.

if you look at the classic obi-wan, wasn't it kinda lame that he was "killed off" so early (ANH) and his only prior lightsaber action was just slicing off ponda baba's arm at the cantina?

i guess for me, lightsaber skills ranks high for determining my favorite jedi or sith. so yeah, that's me.
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lebih dari setahun yang lalu Dcollette said…
I'd have to agree with the majority here. Sidious is an evil evil man. And for a Sith, thats saying something! I mean, who else has the patience to keep yourself alive for a millenia or two and then stage a successful coup and take over the galaxy? Not me! thats for sure! So, my ultimate evil vote goes to Sidious. Vader is cool, but again, his return to the light diminishes his Sith score by a few points.
lebih dari setahun yang lalu Saphira333 said…
Darth Vader is the best sith because he last thought all the films and eventually distroys Sideous.
lebih dari setahun yang lalu yoda said…
The Emperor
lebih dari setahun yang lalu snowtroooper3 said…
Darth vader. he is the best, got the coolest look he outsmarted the emperor in episode IV and he is awesome
lebih dari setahun yang lalu DarthMaulRocks said…
vader's style sucks. darth maul. he uses martial arts and saber, as well as force.
lebih dari setahun yang lalu maxxy said…
ok so most people think maul sucked cause he got beat by obi wan. but put your self in his shoes ok. so you just beat a jedi master qui gon and now you just pushed some young padawan down a pit but he is just managing to hang on some red thingy and his lightsaber is like hundreds of feet below him so theres no way he is gonna get that back the last thing you expect is that this person not even a jedi is gonna jump over your head and grab his masters lightsaber and cut you in half. so i think maul was a typical lookin bad guy that totaly would of beat any of them in a lightsaber fight but not in power, count dooku was just a scared old man scared of another old man and got beat by some kid and nearly beat by some 800 year old green thing. vader is just too soppy out of all of them he the only one that turned back to good, he let luke skywalker live and if you ask me if he killed him when he had the chance he probley still be alive now and would of truly wiped out the jedi. so i thinks sidious is the most powerful, he dident care bout anythin he was just spiteful and cunning
Cy_Ry commented…
Maul didn't die his hatred for Obi Wan kept him alive link lebih dari setahun yang lalu
lebih dari setahun yang lalu beefer said…
Darth Sidious all the way. Although I admit Maul has the best skills with a lightsaber, there is more to being a true sith than that. Vader is ruled out because there was always a little bit of a jedi in him. Count Dooku was once a jedi as well. Outside of wiping out the jedi and the republic, Sidious is the ONLY sith that could give the greatest opponent, Yoda, a REAL FIGHT.
lebih dari setahun yang lalu Guitar-hero4 said…
dont know dont care
lebih dari setahun yang lalu hooch-is-crazy said…
What's the point of replying to a forum just to say you don't care.

It's close between Sidius and Vader, for Sith skills, Sidius, but for my favourite, it has to be Vader.
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lebih dari setahun yang lalu eldavothemighty said…
My vote is for Darth Bane cause he is the one he restarted it all, and he is the one with the most power.
lebih dari setahun yang lalu becca85 said…
Darth Sidious
lebih dari setahun yang lalu revan said…
Revan. Evil mastermind that is so wacked out(is he on crack). I have also been fond of Nihilous and sion.
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lebih dari setahun yang lalu bama287 said…
All the Sith Lords were evil in their own way & had different styles of getting stuff done. But my favorite would have to be a tie between Darth Bane & Darth Sidious.For those of u that haven't read the Star Wars:Legacy graphic novels,Darth Talon is HOTT!
lebih dari setahun yang lalu Quiztzhadrch said…
Vader will ALWAYS have the cred bcz he took out numerous Jedi as well as Sith, including Sidious. However, if we were to magicaly transport ALL the sith alive and revive the dead to a battle area and let them fight it out, based on all information available, it's my opinion it would come down to three sith: Vader, Maul and Revan.
 Vader will ALWAYS have the cred bcz he took out numerous Jedi as well as Sith, including Sidious. How
lebih dari setahun yang lalu banhammer007 said…
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lebih dari setahun yang lalu plageuis said…
ur all nerds. plageuis was the sickest he was the smartest. bane was just a boss in every definition of the word. and darth maul was the coolest looking and has a sick lightsaber, i read a book about him, i would have to say he is my favourite, but not as boss as plageuis
lebih dari setahun yang lalu Acciaccatura said…
In fact being that Anikans midichlorian count was double to triple the amount of any jedi or sith he would technically outrank any force weilder. However being cripled and internally fried Vaders dominant aptitude decreased . Being unable to produce sith lightnening and having breathing deficiencies maimed numerous abilities he once had. The other Sith that rank close to him in diverse ways are as follows: Revin, Bane, Plaguis , Freedon Nadd and the closest would be Palpatine or sidious who stands at 17000 . Vader stood at around 25000 and the only jedi ever surpass an average count was yoda and Mace. Curently according to the recent novels, Darth Krate holds the highest count. note: Palpatine aided himself with the usages of kaibur crystals , inhancing is count and increasing in force strength. So in other words he cheated.
lebih dari setahun yang lalu jamesrob24 said…
mischievous
Reading this, i'm thinking: 85% percent of you do not know what you are talking about; you need to read the history of the Star Wars Sith. 10% of you, on the other hand, know some, but still, read the Wikipedia articles. The other 5% include those who know about the ancient sith, such as Freedon Nadd and such. Now, for my personal thoughts: Best sith with a lightsaber Definately goes to Darth Maul. He took out 2 jedi, but got too cocky. (not to mention that he CAME BACK TO LIFE 3 different times, got his brain resurrected once, was used as a holocron for Vader's training, and is STILL rumored to be alive, not to mention ALL OF THAT)Best Force-Wielding Sith: Tie between Darth Sidius and Darth Plagieus; Sidious was the apprentice, and learned everything from Plagieus, but Sidious ALSO killed Plagieus. However, Sidious DID cheat using Kaibur Crystals, dropping his rank. Plagieus ALSO created the first being from midiclorions (ANAKIN)- And I can't believe you guys didn't know that. Smartest Sith: Again, another tie: Darth Sidious again, he not only waited almost a whole millenium to take over the Galaxy, but he was smart enough to clone himself multiple times a great feat. Strongest Sith: Again, Darth Plagieus. He could CREATE LIFE and SAVE PEOPLE FROM DYING. Darth Vader, however, was EXCEPTIONALLY strong. Most people consider him neither a jedi or sith, but he was in fact BOTH (but for the sake of all you people here, i will not consider him a Sith). He was able to take out an insane number of jedi at the jedi temple, but he also killed many others afterward, including BOTH of his masters. Yes, he killed BOTH Obi-wan (not surprising)but also switched sides and killed Darth Sidious. Since this is the ultimate feat of a Sith, to kill your master, and Vader did it TWICE, this is what in my oppinion makes him amazing. Out of all of these sith, however, none of them are the strongest. The strongest are those who were able to remain alive even after their death by binding themselves to their armor, or using holocrons to save themselves. This list is very lengthy, and i will not tell all of them. THE BEST: In all technicality, there are only 5 sith who can be considered "the best". (In no particular order) 1. Darth Nihilus: Darth Nihilus was not technically a sith, or a jedi. He was a "wound in the force." this meant that he had an unquenchable hunger for the force, and was able to sap out all the force out of anyone once they were dead, and sap some of their force while they were alive. Using this force, he could use the best dark force techniques, thereby enabling him to do almost ANYTHING with the force. Some examples of these are: feel others through the force, and kill them, or control them, even though they are a long distance away. Also, he could sever people from the force, rendering them incapable of using the force or being force sensitive. He killed probably the most people, animals, and jedi of ANY sith, solely for his hunger for the force. Finally, he bound his spirit/soul to his mask/armor, so he is still alive 2. Darth Sidious: Granted, he cheated, but at least he had the power to take over the galaxy EVEN with jedi everywhere. Also, he had amazing power with the force, and was smart enough to clone himself before he died, then plant his spirit into those clones, even though he lacked the Kaibur crystals with these clones. (He was NOT smart enough or capable of immortality). Also, he killed trillions of people, and invented the greatest, biggest ship ever, the Death Star. Darth Bane: He resurrected the Sith, even though they were supposedly all extinct (i've noticed something: they NEVER go extinct). Also, he was able to withstand an ENOURMOUS ammount of pain, then generate that pain into Force. Also, he tied himself to his armor (which gave him continuous pain), and used the Yuuzhan Vong technology in combination with his armor to come back to life. Why he's just awesome: He moved a friggin' moon over 7 miles using the force 3. Darth Vader: Darth Vader was the undisputed greatest strategist of all time. With his ability of precognition, he could sense what was a bout to happen, and cope with it. (Note: Vader was troubled by his son's presence whenever he fought him, and thus lacked this ability while fighting him.) Minus his inability to use Sith Lightning, his ability of precognition made him an incredible opponent in battle, be it dueling or war 4. Exar Kun: Kun was in my oppinion the absolute best Sith ever. He was one of the few Sith able to wage war against all of the jedi alive. In fact, during a trial with the jedi council over what they would do with Kun's apprentice (they had captured him), Kun walked into the room (note: room filled with hundreds/thousands of jedi knights, masters, and even a grand master), froze ALL of the jedi, killed the grand master jedi, and took his apprentice back. Also, it took an entire army to end his rule, and even then he did not have much help in the fight. Also, Kun invented the first ever dual-bladed lightsaber, and was an expert duellist with it. 5. In the end, it would be a combination of force and lightsaber fighting that would determine who would be the best sith. There was a sith, (his name escapes me) who it was said "to all other modern users of the force (jedi and sith), his skill with a blade was so great that it made all of the other force users seem like child-play." So, he would definately be one of the final sith.

In the end, if you take away all of the cheating, Darth Sidious would NOT be one of the finalists. Darth Vader would, because of his precognition. Darth Bane would because of his amazing force strength. Nihilus would because he was the greatest user of the force (but he would TECHNICALLY be consumed by his hunger for the force in the end). Plagieus would because he could keep himself from dying and create life.

Honorable Mention: The original sith who was supposedly dead came back to life, became the Dark Underlord, and took on ALL of the jedi in a war. It is not clear HOW he died; it is disputed, but he is most likely still alive, making him the OLDEST sith EVER.
His picture is shown below. (yes, he still used a Sith blade, not a lightsaber.)
 membaca this, i'm thinking: 85% percent of anda do not know what anda are talking about; anda need to re
lebih dari setahun yang lalu Darth_Leonidas said…
@jamesrob24.

Dude, Sith are defined by CHEATING. So Darth Sidious did nothing wrong by using the crystals (per se whereas Sith are concerned). Indeed, doing so makes him even more of a Sith.

However, both Darth Sidious and Vader have a downside in terms of being SIth Lords (as far as the Rule of Two is concerned) since Sidious killed his Master while he was sleeping and Vader subsequently surprise and threw Sidious. These were not duels - however, Darth Sidious was more powerful than his Master (it can be so assumed) but the same cannot be said about Vader at that stage (after becoming Vader, he had no chance at all of defeating Sidious).

However, despite this, my vote goes to Sidious - he was by far the most cunning, devious of them all - a true sign of being Sith. He freaking made the Jedi extinct and was there right under their nose.

Side by side, i'd say Bane is also worthy of this. In strength he was far greater than Sidious (possibly). Additionally, he was the one who laid the platform for Sidious (and later sith).

Personally speaking, Darth Maul is my absolute favorite. However, he lacked in terms of sheer ability in the force - although as a duelist no Sith or Jedi could match him.

And what about STARKILLER?? He freaking defeated VADER!! He could have killed him but didnt because of the General Rahn.
MasterofRiddles commented…
hey obi wan beat maul lebih dari setahun yang lalu
lebih dari setahun yang lalu wolfmaster3000 said…
okay so what alot of people don't know is that Darth bane came up with the Plan's to Infiltrate the Jedi and get a spy on the inside he told this to a young Siduis who than went through with that plan,

so my vote goes to the Clever and most bad ass sith Darth Bane
lebih dari setahun yang lalu AnEpicCHEWY said…
Darth Nihilus is THE MOST BADASS SITH LORD EVER!!!!
lebih dari setahun yang lalu AnEpicCHEWY said…
even though he is very mysterious and not very well mentioned in most of Star Wars he is my favorite sith lord EVER
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lebih dari setahun yang lalu grabeycakes said…
This is a late fricken post. But jamestob you made me cream my pants so hard reading that beautifulness.

But my list of best sith 1-5 no order
1.Darth bane ( I actually think is the best. Genius started rule of two, never lost a fight until zannah his apprentice )
2.Darth krayt ( makes one sith army??? Ok hardass )
3.Darth plagues ( not to much is known except he taught sidious everything he knows and got betrayed by him IN HIS SLEEP so doesn't count:) )
4. Darth maul ( outstanding saber dualist to take on 2 jesus at the same time AND WIN. Yes he did )
5. Freedom nadd ( my favorite, ruled over iziz forever and taught exar Kun )
foofoobunny1 commented…
Darth Sidious isn't up there!! lebih dari setahun yang lalu
lebih dari setahun yang lalu grabeycakes said…
Definitely said Jesus instead of *2 Jedis* stupid iPhone...
lebih dari setahun yang lalu TheKlye said…
Exar Kun. It took hundreds of Jedi and arguably the most powerful Jedi of all time (Nomi Sunrider) to defeat him. Talk about Maul having a cook saber this guy is so badass he INVENTED the double lightsaber. And to the guy who said it was Freedon Nadd, Exar Kun banished his spirit. This is a
guy that commands respect.
lebih dari setahun yang lalu DR76 said…
Palpatine aka Darth Sidious.
foofoobunny1 commented…
yeah lebih dari setahun yang lalu
lebih dari setahun yang lalu caiza said…
DARTH MAUL BECAUSE HE KILLED QUI GONN EVEN THOUGH HE LOST TO A PADWAN THATS BECAUSE OBI WAN IS ALSOME HE KILLED GRIVIOUS. BUT STARKILLER IN THE BAD ENDING, HE KILLED DARTH VADER AND KILLED OBI WAN AND TURNED LUKE TO THE DARK SIDE BUT DARTH MAUL DIDN'T DIE HE CAME BACK BUT LOST AGAIN BUT IF DARTH MAUL FOURGHT OBI WAN BY HIMSELF HE WOULD OF WON INFACT DARTH MAUL COULD KILL ANYONE.
lebih dari setahun yang lalu kugelsicheren said…
Okay, these are in my opinion the 10 greatest sith lords and my favorite in descending order.

1) Darth Bane ( for his destruction of the brotherhood of darkness using deception and wit, and his physical prowess both in the force and a blade. He truely is the embodiement of the "sith'ari" *perfect sith*. His hunger for knowledge of the ancients and their powers was unique. The perfect sith)
2) Exar Kun (for his amazing victories over the jedi, his rise to power, and skill of double blade/force)
3) Tulak Hord (greatest sith duelest ever)
4) Darth Maul (amazing physical feats with a blade but *adequete at best* skill of the force.)
5) Revan (for destroying entire mandalorion armies and his defeat over his apprentice, his hunger to learn of the ancient sith was only matched by lord bane)
6) Darth Vader ( his ability to outwit others was a great feat, and his early acheivements as a jedi)
7) Darth sidious ( his Acheivement of eradicating the jedis while using deception was truely the way of the sith, but he wasnt physically apt as other sith)
8) naga sadow ( his freightening grasp of the dark side was amazing witch brought his rise and fall)
9) darth nihilus ( a being of pure force his abilities to suck the life force from others was truely awesome)
10) darth krayt ( the one sith lord who banished the rule of two and began the rule of one -- the entire sith empire-- he brought the sith back to power after the fall of the sith before him such ass caedus and vader.)
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foofoobunny1 commented…
How come anda didn't put Darth Sidious first? He was the one who made Anikan Darth Vader and nearly killed Luke and Yoda. Plus he did lebih destruction to the Republic than any other sith! lebih dari setahun yang lalu
lebih dari setahun yang lalu Manhunter108 said…
o please its xanatos he almost KILLED YODA single handely ALMOST TOOK OUT THE WHOLE JEDI TEMPLE AND THEN ALMOST KILLED OBIWAN AND QUIGON not to mention he left o idk 100-200 jedi dead. Xanatos is one of the strongest species out there telosin go to my rematch win page and read bout him he weilds to sabers one red one blue hes 42,000 years old!!!
 o please its xanatos he almost KILLED YODA single handely ALMOST TOOK OUT THE WHOLE JEDI TEMPLE AND T
Masiki12 commented…
Enough of these ALMOSTS lebih dari setahun yang lalu
lebih dari setahun yang lalu Manhunter108 said…
ok ok xanatos species telosion hybrid imune to explosians most poisons can only b killed by decaptation they have somethi called rage when activated (usually when angry) they are unstopaable and are extreamly deadly.
lebih dari setahun yang lalu Summer_Leanne said…
sunny
Darth Sidious, to be sure. It's one thing to overthrow a longstanding, powerful government protected by an elite group of guardians, the Jedi...but to keep an empire running for decades is tough, especially when a growing band of rebels rally against the government. All in all, he was wise enough to take advantage of the Jedi Council's clouded vision of the present and the future, hence, in my opinion, he deserves the title of "Best Sith Lord."
foofoobunny1 commented…
Yeah! lebih dari setahun yang lalu
lebih dari setahun yang lalu guilmon2149 said…
DARTH MAUL
lebih dari setahun yang lalu DR76 said…
Darth Sidious of course. He had accomplished more than any other Sith Lord in the saga - from an evil point of view.
foofoobunny1 commented…
Totally! lebih dari setahun yang lalu
lebih dari setahun yang lalu gwendiamond said…
Darth Sidioius.

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lebih dari setahun yang lalu NextDarkLord said…
It is definitly Lord Revan. Granted Plageus made anikan, yeah, cool, but what did it do for him? Nothing, being smart does not make someone the best Dark Lord ever. It means you should get tenure and a shiny medal. Nihilus sucked, because he was unable to control himself and would've died anyway if he ate the universe because his hunger would have consumed him. Hord is a bit harder to dispell because all we really know is that he was a boss with a lightsaber, same as Maul (who, while not being Revan, is a friggin' boss). But again, we don't know the full extent of their Force abilities, only that they dominate as duelists. So, we can presume that their Force ability is somewhat lacking due to the lack of emphasis until more information is released. Bane does get credit for starting it all again, but using who's holocron? Revan yo. Backtrack, I guess my beef with the ancient sith lords like naga sadow and exar kun is that don't seem to display the same sense of cunning and deception that embodies what it means to be a Sith Lord, they are more like War Heroes that true dark manifestations of the dark side, I think sidious and traya do a much better job of this, they really are sinister by nature, but each of them died at the hands of an apprenntice (no I am not counting sidious clones because he didn't really have a viable chance to use them after dying because Canor Jax tampered with them, not to mention that they were deteriorating at a faster rate due their inability to contain the Force) So I say the kill goes to Vader. That just leaves Vader and Revan. Vader was a boss, period, awesome force choke, awesome with a lightsaber, even Yoda ran to Degoba because he was such a boss. anyone that played Force unleashed would be unable to dispute his awesomedom, but he had a a weakness, an fundamental flaw. Luke. If he had not been so afraid of hurting Luke he could have ruled I would say he is better than Revan, but that did not happen. Revan however, ruled with an iron fist and serpant's tongue. he had the voice of a leader and was a genius by creating a droid that was able to single handedly kill multiple Jedi. Not to mention that his holocron restarted everything and we still don't even know how he dies. I think Darth Traya said it best, "Revan was power. It was like staring into the heart of the Force. Even then, you could see the Jedi he would slay etched on his soul." Hahahaha, Darth Krayt is to big a loser to make my slam list, A real Sith could take out the seldom known Cade Skywalker.
lebih dari setahun yang lalu ArturB20 said…
LOL! Without any doubt, Lord Vitiate. I mean, he could defeat Darth Maul in a second. It's canonical that he was the strongest sith ever. He lived like thousand years, was emperor of the sith empire, defeated Revan, knew all sith secrets, etc. And after him I will put Nihilus. He is awesome. And don't forget Traya, Revan, Ragnos and Hord. Also a sith called Darth Jadus was very powerful too, whose powers were second only to Emperor Vitiate when alive.
lebih dari setahun yang lalu DarkWeetus said…
@NextDarkLord Reven smoked all no doubt, though not overly true to the Sith code. His use of cunning and deception were rather lacking for a well rounded 'Best Ever Sith Lord' undeniably he was striped of the force and reacquired it. I still think he falls below par as in the end he just vanishes into deep space and only leaves a holocron.

Something EVERYONE is forgetting Darth Maul was still an apprentice, he died as one. Maul was no better than Ventress. He looked cool, had cool moves but in the end his arrogance got him killed. He had nothing to the LORDS that preceded him.
Bane is a stand out every time, he destroyed the corrupt Sith and brought about the Rule of 2, even his apprentice Darth Zannah became more force powerful though his legacy lived on for quite a time through his Holocrons and in Zannah herself, and she never went on to do anything to the magnitude of what he did.
The most well rounded Sith has to be Darth Sidious though not my favourite he achieved the most left the Jedi on the verge of extinction and concealed his dark presence for years right in front of the entire Jedi council. Not to win a fight or a war but to take legal control of the entire empire. Then proceeded to hold onto it for decades. The only thing that ever backfired on him was Vader.
lebih dari setahun yang lalu Sm1thzilla said…
If Darth Vader had not gotten so grievously injured, he would have been the best sith warrior, back when he was Anakin Skywalker he defeated Dooku and single handedly killed him and if you read some of the books you find out Dooku was one of the best Jedis who went through the academy and one of the first in his class to be chosen by a master (one of the best masters might I add) and naturally he became even more powerful when he became a Sith and in the end he died on his knees at the hands of Anakin, I've always said Darth Vader's life support suit was weighing him down, figuratively and literally.
lebih dari setahun yang lalu ollybearbear said…
sick
Darth sidious because he is a sith master and he trained sith masters
foofoobunny1 commented…
I so agree man!! lebih dari setahun yang lalu
lebih dari setahun yang lalu LORDCHAOS said…
It would be either Karness Muur or Darth Organius
lebih dari setahun yang lalu DarthKishyaz said…
Darth Malgus all the way he killed a jedi master and killed his own f**king master plus his saber skills are bada**
lebih dari setahun yang lalu LordSpear said…
ALL HAIL LORD REVAN revenue is the best.. fact called the heart of the force beat the intimate army the republic survived the true sith empire, and decided the fate of the universe thousands of years before Vader/Anakin Skywalker. Also beat bastila and malik. Need I say more?...
lebih dari setahun yang lalu MasterofRiddles said…
by far darth maul he was epic
lebih dari setahun yang lalu foofoobunny1 said…
worried
Even though Darth Vader is the chosen one, Darth Sidious lured him into it and he lived the longest!! Definitely Darth Sidious guys!!