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acak Does it upset anda when people hate the Walt era princesses & say they are weak & bad role models? (inspired oleh hatelarxene)
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Critique (that I've encountered) stems more from their focus on marriage as the ultimate goal/be-all-and-end-all for the female characters. While these people have a point (I'd be sort of turned off a modern movie that had these characteristics), analysis should always be from context-driven perspective. A movie made in the 20th century should not be judged on the same terms as one from the 21st- to do so would ignore a significant amount of social change.
Anyone who critiques them as "weak", however, simply haven't watched the movies properly. The classic princesses show endurance through trying times, strength in the struggle against adversity, kindness to others, etc. We still value these traits today. It doesn't upset me because I simply assume that they need to re-watch them and identify these (fairly obvious) characteristics, instead of focusing on the marriage aspect.
Not just with Disney, but with everything with a historical context like that. Understanding the historical context of a work is vital if one is going to invest time in it.
And what's so wrong with being kind and wanting to get married? God forbid a character shows kindness and patience towards others, right? Or a woman that wants to have a romantic relationship, right? link for disliking a female character because she wants a romantic relationship.
Also, about the "marriage as the ultimate goal" thing, please tell me exactly where in the movie Cinderella implies that wanting to get married was her ultimate goal. Because I remember her wishing for a better life and having hopes of being free from her stepfamily and being patient. Just like Belle from Beauty and the Beast, she just happened to run into romance along the way while looking for a way to achieve her dreams (actually, I'd say she did a bit more than Belle or Merida when it came to trying to go after her dreams. See, this is why I have a problem with people hating on the Classic Princesses while saying the Renaissance and Modern Princesses are so "amazing"). Big difference.
Also, I just have to say this. Brave is a fantastic example of misandry (hence, every male character being portrayed as either incompetent, stupid, or ignorant), and Merida is a bigger damsel in distress than Snow White, Cinderella, or Aurora. And what is Merida's goal? To be "free"? From what I've seen, she was already "free" at the beginning of her movie. She gets to go out and ride her horse, climb rocks, shoot arrows, whatever. She just doesn't want any of the princess duties that comes with, oh, I don't know, being a princess, does she? link.
Cinderella, Snow White, and Aurora are link.
I also love how fans see Korra as this strong, "badass" character because she's got a "I DON'T CARE WHAT NOBODY THINKS OF ME" attitude and can bend three of the four elements from the start. Having a bad attitude, acting masculine. and treating your friends like crap totally makes a character a strong one. link.
I love my Disney, but things like that don't upset me.
Cinderella and Snow White aren't "bad role models" in the slightest.
"I think with some characters can be too kind to where they're pushovers and overly-sweet. However, characters like Cinderella and Snow White have more to them because of their patience and endurance. They've been made slaves by their step-mothers and if they ran away wouldn't have any way of proving that they're of royal blood (Snow White) or noble blood (Cinderella) to anyone of any importance that can help them. They'd either be a servant for someone else who might be just as bad or even worse then their step-mothers (better to know your enemy) or even be forced into prostitution. Plus considering how positive they can stay in their bad situation is really admirable and speaking as someone who is hotheaded, there are times I wish I could be as positive and patient as them. Plus they do stick up for themselves, just not to the blunt extent of someone like Jasmine or Ariel. Snow and Cinderella are strong feminists in my opinion, in the more passive way. They're still strong and well-done characters with a lot of things to admire about them. Are they among my favorite fictional characters? No, but I do admire them and will ALWAYS defend them! Snow White shows to try to stay positive when things seem bad and Cinderella I think is a way of showing how to deal with an asshole boss."
I also have to agree with hatelarxene about female characters like Korra and Merida that are some of the most insulting and sexist attempts of making women appear strong and independent in recent history. Korra just acts all tough and like she doesn't care but is supposed to appear emotional when the plot wants her to but hardly ever grows. She acts like she knows everything and her stupidity just gets her and everyone involved almost killed. Plus she doesn't really even do anything that impressive or badass.
People say Brave doesn't try to make Merida look like she's in the right, but that's constantly what they're doing by having Elinor conform to Merida's ways and making her suitors be these three incompetent losers. Shouldn't they be just as competent, skilled, smart, and attractive as her but she's just not ready to get married? I mean, the men in Brave are morons, all except for Merida's brothers and to an extent Fergus. She has freedom and just doesn't want responsibility, even saying she's fine with war breaking out from her selfishness. Also, how she feels like she has the right to change who her mother is and even try to poison her with a magic potion. Merida only has to conform to Elinor's ways in one scene, which ultimately still works out having her get exactly what she wants. Plus with how she's portrayed in the trailers and the marketing as a badass that can take care of herself, doesn't need anyone (especially a man) to save her, and is going to save the day and defeat the villain is a complete LIE! She's constantly having to be saved by her mother and her brothers and is pretty useless. Yeah, she doesn't need a man to save her, just her mother and three little boys.
These two characters are very poorly written and don't really offer anything positive to teach anyone or even have much depth to them. Snow White and Cinderella have MUCH more to them and have positive things to teach people, despite being passive. Plus in the third movie Cinderella is shown that she knows when is the right time to take action but still keeps everything that made her character great and not just your stereotype of an action girl with depth.
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