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What makes someone / a character evil in your definition?

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 What makes someone / a character evil in your definition?
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[i am the definition of evil]
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TheLefteris24 said:
It really depends. Just like I mentioned in your Club, ''Evil'' can be a pretty subjective term. It can vary depending on circumstances and from one's point of view. Personally, I don't believe anyone is born like that. Only made. A ''Villain's'' antagonizing actions can come across as evil but the reasons behind each one can differ and actually be far away from being considered an Absolute one. When it comes to the later, I'll go with the standard definition about it and mention that it means being profoundly immoral. A person who consiously acts for the sake of bringing harm and only that alone without remorse. No Atonement coming from it sooner atau later. That is what would make me call a Character evil. Also, for that very reason, I don't necessarily associate Antagonists of a Series with that term. I very rarely call a Character evil actually. That applies for everyday life too. It is easily generalized !!!!
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 It really depends. Just like I mentioned in your Club, ''Evil'' can be a pretty subjective term. It can vary depending on circumstances and from one's point of view. Personally, I don't believe anyone is born like that. Only made. A ''Villain's'' antagonizing actions can come across as evil but the reasons behind each one can differ and actually be far away from being considered an Absolute one. When it comes to the later, I'll go with the standard definition about it and mention that it means being profoundly immoral. A person who consiously acts for the sake of bringing harm and only that alone without remorse. No Atonement coming from it sooner atau later. That is what would make me call a Character evil. Also, for that very reason, I don't necessarily associate Antagonists of a Series with that term. I very rarely call a Character evil actually. That applies for everyday life too. It is easily generalized !!!!
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Agreed XD
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@TheLefteries24 i was expecting this answer from you. I agree My friend. :D
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:D
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Mauserfan1910 said:
damn it riku, I came here to laugh at trolls and shitpost, not contemplate my idea of morality and the field of ethics
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 damn it riku, I came here to laugh at trolls and shitpost, not contemplate my idea of morality and the field of ethics
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XD I enjoy thinking about this stuff too much XD
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The Thinker is a bronze sculpture oleh Auguste Rodin lols man in thinking mode.
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zanhar1 said:
I think it's about awareness and how the person is raised. As well as empathy and age.

oleh awareness I mean; a truly evil character is in full control (no mental instabilities). They know completely how wrong the action is and do it anyhow. In other words a character that firmly believes that he atau she is doing the right thing isn't truly pure evil. Because this person really thinks that he/she is in the right.

oleh empathy I mean; are they sadistic? If they get a thrill out of doing awful things and/or have no sense of mercy. If the person has detik thoughts atau seems like they don't want to do the thing then I think that they aren't pure evil.

If they were raised without love, compassion, and/or a role model then they get lebih sympathy from me.

If the person is a child (depending on how old) they may atau may not understand why the action was wrong atau how it impacts other lives. Even if they are; the person is still a kid.

My go to example is Azula. She has done a lot of bad things but she's a 14 tahun old abuse victim that had no positive role model in her life. Her dad basically raised her as a human weapon--he raised her to be manipulative and use people. Bad thing was still bad thing, but I don't think she's evil I think that she's very hurt and very misguided. The kind of character who, with intervention, could turn out okay because she isn't inherently evil.

Regina Mills is my other example. She had a very similar story; her mom as well as Mr. emas groomed her to be evil so they could achieve their own means. She also resisted the darkness until she was finally pushed over the edge. She did horrible things. But after many years she was shown cinta oleh one person and that one person made a world a difference. (SPOILERS) She ended up turning good and trying to save other people from the same fate as she.

So maybe what I'm getting at lebih atau less is that characters like in the example above are 'evil' sure but they aren't pure evil. Azula is the exception; she's never killed people. And all of her crimes were committed on the battlefield.
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I'm gonna make an artikel of this lol.
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XD I like this thought going on here. Ill probably read that artikel soon XD
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Thanks :)
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BlindBandit92 said:
There's Antivillians,Antiheroes,heroes,villians,neutral, and alot of morality/ethics for characters.

In my mind a villian is someone who does horrendous deeds for a gain to innocent people.

My viewpoint of what evil is like the D&D morality thing while there's quite a few variations of evil. Evil is defined oleh someone who does something for a personal gain whilst not caring about the wellbeing of others. Neutral can also do this but 50/50 of the times as they will also do good things

Someone doing something for the sake of doing a bad thing is a chaotic evil person.

Someone who does evil things but lebih atau less do not commit evil things for no reason can be considered neutral evil

And Lawful Evil is self-explanatory.

What makes someone good? Good means righteous,agent against evil.

Evil is the reverse.

Granted there are a myriad of gray areas all over the place but there's alot of point blank character situations that are perfectly defined.

Joker is fundamentally a chaotic evil person. Why is he evil? He regularly goes out and torments/tortures/rob etc for no reason other than his amusement.

Magneto can be seen as a villain but he is lebih so an antivillain. He does terrorist attacks because he feels he needs to tampil normal humans that mutants are not to be messed with. So he'll do these sketchy things but when it comes down to it. He just doesn't want mutants to suffer a Holocaust like the Jews did. And he is a Jew and in a concentration camp. Magneto is lebih radical and militant but he is not completely a bad person.

The code breaker in bintang wars Rose and Finn found. Was that guy evil? No he was neutral. Only out for himself. Is that to say all neutral characters are out for themselves? No just that particular one was.

I can go on and on with the differences. TL;DR there are alot of obvious and not so obvious reasons why people are not evil atau evil. Kylo Ren himself would be an antivillian.
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The Code Breaker in bintang Wars is Chaotic Neutral XD I cinta Chaotic Neutral characters XD
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Indeed
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8theGreat said:
IMHO "good" and "evil" don't actually exist in the real world.
People are incredibly nuanced, and seeing people as being anything other than nuanced narrows the scope of our existence.

Everyone has their own moral code, which is influenced oleh a lot of different things. Culture, religion, region, personal experience, upbringing, and many lebih things. There’s things that are perfectly acceptable in one culture that are totally objectionable in another.
And you’d be hard pressed to find two random, unrelated people- even from the same culture- whose tampilan are anything close to identical.

Not to mention most people make exceptions to their own moral codes in specific cases. Like, how many people do anda know that are opposed to murder, yet support the death penalty atau war? How many people do anda know of that are against violence that are okay with punching nazis atau self defense? How many people do anda know that think recreational marijuana is the worst yet are terrible alchoholics? Probably at least a few.

Even if we were to ignore the fact that morality isn’t very clear cut, people are rarely- if ever- purely and completely evil. I would argue that every single person on the planet has some redeeming quality, even the most objectionable and twisted of people. It isn’t really a pertanyaan of whether atau not someone is totally “evil”, but rather of whether atau not someone’s positive traits outweigh their negative ones.
Which, if anda have people chained in your basement that anda only feed one prune a hari and are also a serial killer pedophile rapist, it’s pretty aman, brankas to bet that no amount of redeeming qualities is going to be enough, but I digress.
…And even then, there’s unfortunately going to be people that wouldn’t find such a thing to be evil and even encourage it.

I view characters largely the same way. In general, I don’t think an “evil” character should feel evil, depending on the purpose/limitations of the story. If I think of a character as “evil”, it’s probably because they’re poorly written characters with no nuance. They probably twirl their moustaches and wring their hands as they steal permen from bayi because that’s what bad guys do. I only think of them as being evil because there really isn’t another way to describe them because there’s nothing else to their character.
(And obviously there’s exceptions to this- like I berkata it depends on the purpose/limitaions of the story. Like, obviously a character like Sauron from LOTR was meant to be evil incarnate, the Joker from batman is a force of chaos all of his own, and Invader Zim’s evil master plans are played for comedic effect. The intent was different so they have to be written differently.)

I could go on from here on what I think a good “evil” character should feel like but that would be a different topic to cover on a different day.


TL;DR: Evil ain't real.
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 IMHO "good" and "evil" don't actually exist in the real world. People are incredibly nuanced, and seeing people as being anything other than nuanced narrows the scope of our existence. Everyone has their own moral code, which is influenced oleh a lot of different things. Culture, religion, region, personal experience, upbringing, and many lebih things. There’s things that are perfectly acceptable in one culture that are totally objectionable in another. And you’d be hard pressed to find two random, unrelated people- even from the same culture- whose tampilan are anything close to identical. Not to mention most people make exceptions to their own moral codes in specific cases. Like, how many people do anda know that are opposed to murder, yet support the death penalty atau war? How many people do anda know of that are against violence that are okay with punching nazis atau self defense? How many people do anda know that think recreational marijuana is the worst yet are terrible alchoholics? Probably at least a few. Even if we were to ignore the fact that morality isn’t very clear cut, people are rarely- if ever- purely and completely evil. I would argue that every single person on the planet has [i]some[/i] redeeming quality, even the most objectionable and twisted of people. It isn’t really a pertanyaan of whether atau not someone is totally “evil”, but rather of whether atau not someone’s positive traits outweigh their negative ones. Which, if anda have people chained in your basement that anda only feed one prune a hari and are also a serial killer pedophile rapist, it’s pretty aman, brankas to bet that no amount of redeeming qualities is going to be enough, but I digress. …And even then, there’s unfortunately going to be people that [i]wouldn’t[/i] find such a thing to be evil and even encourage it. I view characters largely the same way. In general, I don’t think an “evil” character should [i]feel[/i] evil, depending on the purpose/limitations of the story. If I think of a character as “evil”, it’s probably because they’re poorly written characters with no nuance. They probably twirl their moustaches and wring their hands as they steal permen from bayi because that’s what bad guys do. I only think of them as being evil because there really isn’t another way to describe them because there’s nothing else to their character. (And obviously there’s exceptions to this- like I berkata it depends on the purpose/limitaions of the story. Like, obviously a character like Sauron from LOTR was meant to be evil incarnate, the Joker from batman is a force of chaos all of his own, and Invader Zim’s evil master plans are played for comedic effect. The intent was different so they have to be written differently.) I could go on from here on what I think a good “evil” character should feel like but that would be a different topic to cover on a different day. [b]TL;DR: Evil ain't real.[/b]
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I seriously cinta all this XD I really do. So many people talking of their philosophies and their moral / ethical ideas that its beautiful. Its art. This pertanyaan is probably one of the best decisions of my life XD
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Not really to that last sentence but STILL
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^I would also say that racism is generally considered to be unacceptable in today's society, but I wouldn't call it a universally shared opinion. There's still people, even in our generation, that are either openly racist, try to hide that they're racist, atau try to justify being racist. And there's certainly people that don't think racism is terribly unforgivable, and even people that encourage it albeit in subtle ways. I've seen an alarmingly substantial amount of people that say they aren't racist and in the same breath advocate for "race realism" atau forming a white enthnostate for white people and only white people which is pretty racist. I've also seen an alarming amount of people that somehow see nothing wrong with advocating for such a thing. Not a majority of people oleh any means, but still too alarming of an amount for be to really be convinced that racism is as universally unaccepted as to say that no one thinks it isn't an evil behavior. It certainly isn't as unanimous as I'd like to see it be.
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wantadog said:
Whether atau not Riku likes the character
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TRUE.
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cookieRose said:
Simple and short answer *Personality flaw* make people and someone evil.
This flaw can be one atau several.
#You know your selft better than anyone.
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 Simple and short answer *Personality flaw* make people and someone evil. This flaw can be one atau several. #You know your selft better than anyone.
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