Why am I hearing that Natsu is stronger than Laxus!!!!?????

I agree. Natsu is pretty obviously not stronger than Laxus... The only reason people say this, I think, is because Laxus transferred his magical energy to Natsu, so that he could eat it and become the Thunder-Flame Dragon. But, before getting the energy, Natsu was as good as beaten.

Easy. Natsu beat laxus. Makes sense rite? Also he has beaten nearly every major villian in the show! Are people not watching the same tampil I am? Some say.. well he has to be angry...umm everyone in this tampil is stronger angry. An angry natsu whose serious beats the brakes off laxus whose angry. Natsu beats everyone. He is the main protagonist of this show, and like in 99% of everyshow the hero is the strongest/or becomes that way.

Over time Natsu does get stronger than Laxus! Maybe anda haven't watched ALL of Fairy Tail yet, but until anda do, then anda can judge.

Except Zeref, Evil Natsu Dragneel (END) is far stronger than any Fairy Tail character. END is also the most powerful, bilest, and most feared among the seven demons atau seven buku of Zeref, but never manifested, because Igneel chosed to raise Natsu from childhood, therefore, grew kind and gentle. Even acnolgia never let the book of END to be opened. I don't know why yet, but perhaps the dragon can also sense fear and threat. According to Zeref (in manga), Natsu is the only one who can defeat and kill him someday.

lol, i'm always wondering the same thing, my conclusion fanboyyerry and fangirlerry. I pretty much agree with all anda say. The fanboys and fangirls are so much like...........well fanboys and fangirls that they dispute what natsu says because he wins in a fight that isn't fair and square plus he had plot no jutsu and character change no jutsu on his side. Natsu says in the fight against hades when laxus gives him his power, "Why, I am weaker than laxus, so why did anda give me your power". This is well after their fight, but fanboys and girls just refuse to accept even natsu's words lol. If natsu himself can't convince them, then anda should abandon trying cos u certainly aren't gonna lol. the funny thing is just like anda berkata natsu doesn't make the puncak, atas 3, top5 in my opinion, all s class are still stronger than him
1. Gildarts
2. Laxus/Makarov (I strongly believe laxus takes this)
3. Makarov/Laxus
4. Mirajane (Thanks to demon halphas)
5. Erza "Titania" Scarlett.
Natsu, gray gajeel all fall in the sixth position and freed justine if he has improved in the 3 months, i remember him being very strong int the battle of fairy tail

As far as i can see, Natsu is still very weak compared to other S class mages from the guild.
The only problem is that we always see him defeat the bad guys when we all know that he benefits from other events.

What u don't even realise is that gray may actually be stronger than Natsu, And it's a gray hater saying this

will because of zeref. natsu is over 400 years old just like zeref and he is soon to be the strongest of all the wizard in fairy tail... all tho its what i think i can't tell what u are thinking....

This answer contains spoilers so if anda don't want to know what happens DO NOT READ.

Listen this is my opinion feel free to argue but i am confident it is right. Natsu is stronger than Laxus, When Natsu is diberikan a reason to fight he is stronger than pretty much any person in fairy tail. As long as he sets his mind to it he can conquer any objective.

If anda have watch the series anda would know that after the seven tahun time gap when Natsu and the others got Frozen in time, Makarov let them train themselves for at least 2 months. The part that they are training for the Grand Magic Games were all for nothing XD Because they traveled to the celestial world because they are told that there are some problems atau something but they are tricked. It was just a Celebration of Coming Back of Lucy and her Friends. They didn't know that a hari of staying there is equal to 2 months in Fore...

After that... They met Jellal, Ultear and Meledy. They Broke from Jail for the purpose of destroying all the dark guilds so that know one would ever fall to the dark side as what happened to them in the past. Ultear offers to increase their Magic abilities, explaining that she can use her improved Arc of Time Magic to open their "Second Origin", a dormant Magic container generally not used oleh Mages that, if opened, can allow them access to heightened amounts of Magical Power. However, she also warns them that the process will be incredibly painful, but the Fairy Tail Mages are lebih than happy to receive the help and start celebrating. All were crying out of pain except for Erza XD But in Exchange, They should Help them find the sumber of the suspicious power that is the same as Zeref's.

Because, Nastu is nicer/cooler than Laxus xD But really. Nastu beat Laxus up. Nastu beated him using the secret fighting thingy for his fire. atau something like that.

ok tell me if gildarts, laxus, erza can beat bluenote is one shot cause natsu can one shot blue note

When Natsu gets his detik origin, It is possible if he also ends up unlocking the dragonforce in the fight. But I'd say Natsu is stronger than Erza, she has even berkata so herself.

Something that has bugged me for awhile is that shouldn't Natsu be able to eat lightning to power him up like he does with fire? Since he can use lightning dragon slayer magic with fire, shouldn't he be able to eat any lightning that Laxus throws at him? If he can then I don't think Laxus stands a chance. If we're talking pure talent and strength I think it's a toss up. Laxus is definitely lebih experienced and has lebih control over his power, but as we have seen countless times in the show, if Natsu gets angry, he doesn't lose. Like he refuses to stop fighting. Also in desperate times, Natsu comes up with some pretty genius ideas on defeating his enemy, even if they do seem simple. Such instances include his fights with Cobra, Brain/Zero, Zancrow, and the giant celestial spirit thing to name a few. I think that Natsus creative strategies and complete determination when he starts losing atau gets angry give him the advantage over Laxus.

Natsu is stronger, people who say Laxus atau Erza is stronger aren't far enough in the series to say anything, I already finished the Tartaros Arc, now I am on Zero Arc, Natsu is like number 2 atau 3 on the guild list, makarov and gildarts ar at number 1 and 2

Well, not only did Natsu beat him once, but I bet anda if Natsu got serious he could beat him again. If anda think Ezra is on par with Laxus, Ezra states that Natsu can easily surpass her when he is serious. Natsu would never fight a guild member at full strength unless under special circumstances, so all the silly rough housing anda see when they are together at the guild is just horseplay. The only person Natsu might have a chance losing to is Zeref and Gildarts. Natsu is destined to defeat the greatest dark wizard of all time, so why anda find the possibility of him being stronger than Laxus is beyond me.

If anda have seen episode 102 fairytale 2014 and anda still think that's Laxus is still stronger than natsu then you're wrong and if anda haven't read the komik jepang yet then you're definitely wrong for sure because he's probably stronger then almost everyone in fairytale selanjutnya to the number one and number two in the guild and anda already know who the number one and number two are so I think anda should continue watching fairytale and then you'll have your answer to why natsu is far stronger then Laxus

hmmm I mean, to answer this pertanyaan I have 1 thing to say, it all depends how far anda are in the tampil yes for a long time natsu is not even comparable to laxus at all I agree, however, we all now that natsu will become the most powerful mage in the world since he defeats zeref, the most powerful mage. So its obvious that natsu will surpass laxus .... the only problem is that anda will never see natsu fight another fairy tail member with all his power either ... because he considers them family, unless they try to hurt he's family like laxus did that one time and he was defeated, with the help of gajeel yeah i know, but ants will become way stronger. anda can measure he's power we anda see him fight the twin dragon slayers...
he defeats them both when they had dragon force and he didn't. this is because natsus dragon was one of the strongest. Igneel is the king of the api naga ! the strongest api dragon ! igneel might not be lebih powerful than acronologia but igneel is easily puncak, atas notch dragon which makes natsu be a puncak, atas notch dragon slayer. natsu not only surpasses laxus but he surpasses erza, makarov, gilders, igneel, hard bir (acronologia) and zero ... so it all depends how far in the tampil anda are....

If natsu wasn't playing around and if he saw Lucy being beaten up oleh laxus he would use his dragon force and in plus he gotten stronger in season 8

I kinda think Natsu could beat laxus because in episode 277 he beat many wizards in one shot and he melte the whole grand magic games stadium.

easy natsu is a pure dragon slayer and he's raised oleh a true dragon while laxus only gets his dragon slaying power artificially. plus natsu train lebih and fight lebih he hurt zeref

Have anda seen Natsu's Dragon Force it makes his attacks greatly stronger than normal and his determination to win and not lose and his dragon slayer magic being very destructive as it is he can't really ever loose also if someone is in trouble he would save them especially Lucy.

First off thank anda so much for saying this, i completely agree with you, Natsu only beat Laxus with the help of Gajeel when Laxus was emotionally unstable and can we not forget that Natsu's selanjutnya fight with Laxus ended instantly with Natsu getting flipping one shot with a slap (i laughed for so long on that one) also we see that Laxus is almost an equal to Hades whom was only beaten oleh team Natsu because Laxus gave his lightning to Natsu and because three exceeds destroyed the heart, as the series has progressed Laxus has only grown stronger.
Another point to prove how superior Laxus is to Natsu is Tartaros arc, Laxus managed to beat Tempesta, one of the nine demon gates (whom Natsu couldn't beat even with Lightning Flame Dragon mode) in literally 38 seconds...that is without going all out like he did with Jura, that there is a massive indication of just how damn strong he is. He then went on to eat a hell of alot of anti magic particles which would be fatal upon inhaling and if the fact that he survived that isn't awesome enough, he then went on to fight Tempesta once again, only this time Tempesta is in his strongest form, and Laxus still had the anti magic particles in his body which shouldn't even allow him to be conscious and moving let alone fighting, and yet Laxus beat him.
From his achievements that i have covered there is no doubt about who is stronger.
(For this argument i was going oleh the anime so sorry if i left out anything from the manga)

anda can't really judge natsu's strength vs his guildmates. He will never fight one of his own comrades with his full power. Only reason natsu was getting beat oleh laxus pre time skip was to build emotion for that fight, in order to tampil how strong Natsu's feelings are. Natsu used his weak attacks during most of the fight until he got really angry and used his secret slayer art which whopped the crap out of laxus.

Natsu is a demon from the book of Zeref with access to incredible curse power. At first he does not have access to this and as such he relies on his unsupported dragon slaying magic which is nothing special so it is significantly weaker than many opponents. However, after he learns he is a demon his curse power activates and it enhances him so much it took Zeref on infinite steroids to (temporarily) defeat him. Gray (demon slayer mode) slowed him down but managed little else. This curse power basically has an on and off switch. With it on hes unstoppable and kind of insane but, without it he is nothing lebih than your typical dragon slayer. With it he can beat any non-immortal fairly easily. Without it hes low on the power list. Because of this he is comparatively weak most of the time but, if he decides he really wants to win he can and will. If anda aren't getting the image then re-watch Deliora's rampage keeping in mind Natsu was built to make stuff like that look like child's play.

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Natsu is almost the strongest if not THE strongest in the fairy tail universe. If anda watch the whole anime and read the manga, and watch Dragon Cry thenyou will see why. First of all; Natsu has the abilitiy to use Dragon Force, but if anda pile on the fact that he is also able to use api Dragon King mode then anda will see how strong he is. Because in the komik jepang Natsu is able to one shot the 18th Yakuma war god: (the weakest) Ikusa-Tsunagi. And that's just using raw power. With the ability to use api Dragon King mode Natsu has the ability to defeat Zeref (his brother/creator). But in the new film Fairy Tail: Dragon Cry, Natsu starts to turn in to his Etherius form which can be considered his strongest/purest form. Now pile on all of these and he might be able to defeat acnologia oleh himself too (he doesn't). So to answer your question, Natsu is stronger than Laxus.

Well I don't agree that Natsu is stronger than Laxus . But if Natsu were to be in his most powerful state. He may stand a 50 percent chance. Otherwise whoever berkata that is a complete idiot. ;)

first of all - natsu can no longer use flame dragon king mode that was a one time power up.
Secondly natsu only beats laxus because he used all of his magic power casting fairy law.
if anda read the manga, laxus is the only one on the daftar that managed to beat a spriggan twelve single handedly.
With outside powerups natsu may be able to match Laxus, but with his own power he currently does not match up to laxus.
Furthermore, laxus defeats a member of the spriggan twelve while dying from organ failure due to inhaling anti magic particles.