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putri disney For which of these traits would anda not like Snow White

36 fans picked:
Naive and too trusting for her own good
   36%
Can be bossy at times
   33%
Can't protect herself against evil
   17%
unrealistically sweet and good-natured
   14%
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Sparklefairy375 picked Naive and too trusting for her own good:
Yup, she's too easily for fooled by anyone who actually is so evil behind her.
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anukriti2409 picked Can't protect herself against evil:
one should know how to protect yourself, in case the need arrives. It makes you dependent and sometimes people take advantage of your weakness
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lililc picked Can be bossy at times:
she´s 14 so i think i could pass the other ones
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Aang_Lite picked unrealistically sweet and good-natured:
She apologizes for crying after nearly being killed. Way too idealized.
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Diazdiaz95 picked Naive and too trusting for her own good:
She is a bit too idealized but for her I let it slide because she was the earliest one and I love her but yeah, she is unrealistically sweet, I've never met anyone like that. I love her bossy side actually, I would have been the same way (well maybe not in someone else's home but you know). That shows that she isn't completely sweet I do think that not being able to defend yourself is not a good thing but even worse is seeing someone who let's face it is obviously evil or at least after something and just taking an apple from her and believing it's a wishing apple, really, Snow, really? Especially after the dwarfs told her that the Queen can take other forms and that she should not let anyone in, stranger danger Snow, you need to learn that.
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sweetie-94 picked Naive and too trusting for her own good:
Eh, none of them really
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MalloMar picked Naive and too trusting for her own good:
^Pretty much. I sort of like her bossiness. As Diaz said, it makes her less of a pushover (not that I think she is one).
I love her, but it was her naivety that lead to tragedy.
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laylastepford picked Naive and too trusting for her own good:
This is the only one I agree with at all. She's not bossy, she's motherly and the dwarfs benefited from it. Who can protect themselves against evil? I don't see how that's a flaw. "Unrealistically sweet and good natured" is just offensive. Granted, most women aren't like this but that's what makes it "uncommon" not "unrealistic". It bothers me so much that the idea that a woman might be virtuous and of high character must be "unrealistic". I have known women like this and I was honored to know them as they encouraged my faith in humanity and myself. They are treasures to be adored, not ignored because of their rarity.
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Diazdiaz95 picked Naive and too trusting for her own good:
^ I think it's unrealistic because while I have also met several very kind, virtuous, sweet women like Snow I don't think that they are as perfect as her and never lose their temper or do something else that would be considered not perfect. Whenever I'd see them they were nice but I didn't spend every hour of the day with them so I doubt that they were always perfectly cheerful and sweet and innocent like Snow. No one is perfect. No one is saying that it's unrealistic to be virtuous or of high character but I've never met someone like Snow who is ultra cheerful and sweet no matter what and so naive that they would believe anything. Virtuous women should be admired and it's true that they exist but we are saying that someone exactly like Snow White doesn't exist, I sure have never met, seen, or heard of such a person.
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laylastepford picked Naive and too trusting for her own good:
^How is it unrealistic if you, yourself, admit that women like her are real? You admit you know women like her but you want to assume less of them. Again, the proper word here would be "uncommon" not unrealistic. Unrealistic means it could NEVER happen in real life; It's impractical or not sensible. She is perfectly realistic, practical and sensible. I think comments like yours are harmful to girls because it makes them think that being a virtuous woman is an "unrealistic" expectation and they shouldn't try to attain that kind of balance. Unless you want to encourage women to lose their temper then I have no idea what your argument here is. I have met people like Snow White and she is very realistic. You're acting like as if she's not capable of certain emotions. When she first meets the prince, she gets very shy and runs away; when she is told of the attack by the queen and has to run away through the scary night in the forest, she breaks down and cries before she picks herself up again; when Grumpy doesn't like her, she is clearly insecure about it and prays that he will like her. Also Snow White is a young sheltered girl and I can find you plenty of young sheltered girls on Earth right now who are naïve and sweet. Just because you, personally, have never met a woman like this (or don't want to give them this much credit) doesn't mean you should insult the women like this who do exist by saying they must not be real. Especially when you say yourself that you have met some women close enough. Why cant you just use the term "uncommon" instead of "unrealistic" even though it is far more accurate? Is there something wrong with accuracy?
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anukriti2409 picked Can't protect herself against evil:
Merida can protect herself against evil. And evil here simply implies a bad person. Folding up hands when someone is going to strike you down with a sword is not a good idea and it certainly doesn't save you.
^agree with Diazdiaz95 on why Snow is an "unrealistic" and way-too idealized CHARACTER and that's why she doesn't accurately represents a real life person. And my problem with this is that it fills little girls head to be PERFECT, which no one will ever be.
She's bossy: who enters someone else's home without permission, change it as per what seemed good to her ( which i may agree that she cleaned it and made it look more homely, no harm in that but nonetheless, it was someone else's in first place and she had no right to touch it), and go about setting new house rules.
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laylastepford picked Naive and too trusting for her own good:
^No she cant because she got help from the witch by going back to her cabin and getting the message from her and she also got help from her brothers as you described in your "Defense of Merida" article. Obviously you are wrong about "folding up hands certainly doesn't save you" because it did save Snow White. Her innocence stopped the Huntsman from being able to go through with it. The fact that she wasn't fighting back, that she just braced herself was more than he could handle and it made him show her mercy. So actually it did save her life. Even if she tried to fight, it wasn't going to save her life as he was a grown man who could overpower her easily through strength as well as easily outrun her.

I still disagree with you and diazdiaz95 that Snow is not "unrealistic". How is she "unrealistic"? Please explain to me why she is "unrealistic" as opposed to "uncommon" because neither of you have given actual examples of how she is "unrealistic".

She's not bossy: She entered the house without permission and that has nothing to do with bossy. She didn't know if it was abandoned since it was so dirty. She cleaned the entire house and made food for whoever lived there, not knowing if she would be thrown out or not. That means that if she was thrown out, they still got a cleaned house and home-made meal for free. She didn't expect something for nothing. She didn't "change" the home, she just cleaned it. Her intent was not bossy even 1%, her intent was to earn her keep somewhere she could be safe. She was a homeless princess in the middle of the forest with nowhere to run and no one to help her. She did the only thing she knew she could offer, cooking and cleaning, in the hopes that she would be taken in. How is that bossy? She didn't order them to take her in, that would be bossy.
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anukriti2409 picked Can't protect herself against evil:
i have a different stand point on how to protect yourself: sure, she got saved once. The point here is she didn't know what to do, didn't even think of "try to do" something. A grown man has got nothing to do with speed of running. She can outrun him, if only she tried. It was his own morals, not Snow's "folding hands" that saved her. That's the point of TRYING - you've got to do something, like Merida did. She threw arrows, she sought help from brothers, she went to find witch's cottage. And from Mor 'Du, she saved herself coz she was quick enough to run with her bear-turned-mother.
Lucky for Snow that the man who was sent to kill her was not a loyal soldier of Evil Queen. It has nothing to do with Snow's abilities.

If entering someone else's house without permission is not bossy, i don't know what is. She did know someone lived there after counting small little beds, who else was she cooking for then? She could have waited outside, hid herself in the trunk of a tree, behind a bush, climb up a tree - before making herself at home. She didn't even consider staying awake, she slept on their bed. I never questioned her intent, i questioned her actions.

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laylastepford picked Naive and too trusting for her own good:
^Actually she did think of trying to do something, she raised her arms in front of her face as you said. Have you ever had someone in front of your face trying to kill you or someone you know? In movies and TV it's easy to think "I would've done this" but unless you actually experience it then it's just a fantasy of what you'd like to do and not what you're actually capable of. Some people get frightened and their body freezes, they want to scream but they cant find their voice; they want to run but they can't feel their legs. I have watched someone I love held to gunpoint and while everything slowed down, the only thing I knew to do was drop to my knees and cry and beg for mercy of the person that the gun was pointed at. I think it's really unrealistic to fault someone on dealing with a life-altering traumatizing experience that they couldn't possibly have been trained for. A grown man has a lot to do with speed of running. You have absolutely no proof that she could've outran him, you just think she could've. Merida's actions were unrealistic. No woman can take on a bear, sorry but that is total Hollywood. I think it's unrealistic for you to expect a girl with no training or experience in fighting or violence to know exactly what to do, and be capable of it, when dealing with an attempted murder on her life for the first time. How do you know that Snow White didn't try to do all that she could?

Bossy definition: "fond of giving people orders; domineering". What does "giving people orders" have to do with trespassing? Nothing. She saw very small beds and she thought the house was full of orphans without any parents and you think it would've been more proper for her to just leave a house full of potential orphans in the middle of the forest? Really? I think it was noble of her to stay in that case. Not waiting inside has nothing to do with being bossy and giving orders. I completely disagree with you that she "didn't even consider staying awake" as she had just been through a terrible ordeal, running through the scary forest after an attempt on her life, cleaned the entire house and started cooking and she was simply worn out. She exhausted all of her energy and she couldn't stay awake, she didn't have a choice.
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anukriti2409 picked Can't protect herself against evil:
^yes i have been in a situation of extreme danger from someone. And its not Hollywood at all. I'm very much glad that I was able to fight off that person and made it alive. I;m sorry to hear that you were forced into such a situation. I think i understand that sometime one may truly do not have a choice to fight back. But since the discussion got limited to the gunman only in case of Snow White, the bigger picture was to see she couldn't protect herself again against Evil Queen, for whatsoever be the reason. So she was incapable of protecting herself even if she had the opportunity or not. This also shows me that she didn't learn despite the terrible incident to learn some skills to protect herself.

Bossy: thinking that one have every right to trespass someone else's property is downright arrogant and bossy! How can anyone just assume that right without being given it. I understand she was terrified, but like i mentioned - she could've hidden behind bushes or climbed up a tree. A grown man has nothing to do with speed. I have seen a lot of teenagers running faster than grown people. In fact, the more you age, the less speed you have. I'm not saying whether he would have or not caught her - I'm saying she didn't TRY to run to know that. She assumed a lot of things while she was in that house and on top of it she thought she was right as well - that's also very dominating attitude. What was noble was to leave the house to its owner and stop making assumptions about it and try to fix it up just because she thought it was right to do so. She would have stayed awake if she had not wasted away her energy in doing things nobody asked her to do in the first place. She mostly definitely had the choice - of not going in, of not making food, of staying awake. No one forced her to do any of those things. She assumed it was the right thing to do - and that's again bossy.

Fighting back has nothing to do with experience - it has everything to do with how quickly can you think of multiple options in a particular situation. Some people freeze, while some people kick back. And by the way, it did happen to me when i was exactly 14 years of age. I had no experience of facing violent situation either prior to that, but i think my mind worked faster and i could think of few alternatives. Having said that, I;m not saying everyone in every situation CAN fight back. I think in your situation, i'd have also not tried to do something - but that would have been on purpose coz i know a bullet would move faster than any action i'd take. And I think i'm entitle to say what i could have done coz i myself was all alone at the knife point. I guess everyone's response time and reaction varies as per their personality.
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laylastepford picked Naive and too trusting for her own good:
anukriti2409: It's great that you were able to fight off someone when in danger but I think it's very wrong of you to hold it against someone else for not being able to do the same. Like I said, everyone is different and some people really want to do something but they honestly physically cant. I think it's mean to tell that person "you didn't do all that you could" especially when you don't even know if they tried. I was honestly a small child when I saw someone I loved at gunpoint so my actions then are likely to be different than if it happened now but the point is that you never really know what you can do unless you are put in that situation and not all people are equal so it's unfair to rate them all the same.

How could Snow White protect herself against the Evil Queen when A) She didn't know she was after her? and B) By the time she did, she was disguised so Snow couldn't recognize her? That doesn't make her incapable of protecting herself. We're not talking about army soldiers here, we're talking about young women with no experience in fighting or defense who were taught to run away and protect the children if danger comes about. I think it's greatly unfair to rate her against a warrior or a man who is trained to protect and defend. Why should she learn skills to protect herself? That would be a waste of time since most women who learn self-defense actually make things worse for themselves more often than getting away, that's what studies prove.

Bossy: Snow didn't think she had the right to trespass someone's house at all, she was just hoping it would work out. It has nothing to do with bossy and I think you need to look up the definition of bossy because it's not even close, honestly. She was absolutely trespassing but she wasn't being bossy, there wasn't even anyone to boss around so that makes no sense. A grown man has a lot to do with speed, whether you want to admit it or not. He wasn't an old man, he was a huntsman and she was very young and hadn't been training in track. You see teenagers who have PE or are constantly physically active (which Snow was not since she was forced to be a servant like Cinderella) outrun grown people who haven't gotten exercise everyday like the teenagers. Hypothetical aside, Snow White was not a track runner and she spent most of her life cleaning and scrubbing so her legs were not going to be stronger than that of a huntsman. You don't know if she tried to run or not. You don't know if she lost all of the feelings in her legs because she was so frightened and seeing a grown man with a knife in front of her face trying to kill her. You are faulting her for something that you have no idea about.

Assuming things has nothing to do with dominating. Assuming things is being smart and curious because you are looking for logic. Just because she thought she might be right doesn't mean she was dominating. Do you really think that every time you think you are right about something, that it's being "dominating"? I don't at all and I think that's an extreme analysis.

The key word you used about Snow was "she thought it was the right thing to do" which means she wasn't trying to be dominating, she thought she was being helpful and honorable. She would've been awake if she was lazy, conceited and bossy. If she were bossy and dominating, she wouldn't have exerted energy doing something nice for other people, she would've just demanded to the dwarfs that they clean the place up themselves. That is true bossy. Making a mistake or a bad judgment isn't being bossy. Again, you should look up the definition of bossy as it just does not apply here at all.

Fighting back has a lot to do with experience. People who have never fought ever are the least likely to try to fight "back" when something happens. People who fight often are most likely to fight "back" in a violent situation. It is not how quickly you can think of options but how cool, calm and collected you can be in the face of such danger. Some people freeze but it doesn't mean that they want to or that they didn't try to do anything else. You said "I guess everyone's response time and reaction varies as per their personality." which is exactly why I think it's wrong to fault them for something they don't have a choice over.
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220340 picked Can be bossy at times:
I really hate getting bossed around
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AdelitaI said:
Just generally bland and boring. Plus I dislike her wardrobe.
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Vizsla4 picked Naive and too trusting for her own good:
All are true. She's also boring and has a dreadful voice. She's my least favorite DP.
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